What is the artist

[Seriy]

Fed, alas, while in Russia it can somehow disconnected from reality, in the West, for example, in the U.S., you are over 10 thousand dollars a living work of the master, but still good, do not buy.
Moreover, the most popular artists you buy from the shop, but in the gallery or at auction.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Originally Posted by Fed; 2338361"

See Post 1 .

I looked and saw this:

Originally Posted by Fed; 1893771"

Canaletto ( Bernardo Belotto ), who received payment in silver from the Elector of Saxony, where the amount is known and often -145 thalers for a picture, can be calculated and paid on time, ie a month .

Canaletto, Elector of Saxony - all of this, of course , is very interesting , but how you vote now Puteyku? >

[Peter]

Originally Posted by Fed

Some people, of course , suggest that the time in which they live , amazing , new and like nothing on earth , but I have a different opinion .

All the same time, while artists drugoe.V (and pictures) udovoletvoryali largely emotional and sensual and somewhat entertaining visual query naseleniya.Seychas this area serve internet.Spros on TV and works by contemporary artists is strongly polarized . It is either a cheap picture " to close holes in the wallpaper " (in competition with posters for the masses ), .. or investments promoted names .. motif capitalization.

[Fed]

Originally Posted by Seriy; 2338381"

while in Russia it can somehow disconnected from reality , in the West , for example, in the U.S., you are over 10 thousand dollars a living work of the master , but still good, do not buy. Moreover, the most popular artists you buy from the shop , but in the gallery or at auction.

Well, you wrote it , and I have to think about the answer - as there in America (and how it relates to the impressionists and Europe).

The answer is simple - just - look reality Alphabetical, all the masters :
Vito Acconci (" a key figure in American Video Art ") - Shristie 's prices for healthy work - from 12000 , well 20000.
Ie for 10000 - well, does not get him to buy?

Ghada Amer , it is possible to buy 8-12000 , in the same , with a significant excess of the estimate. While at the same time there is also a very " gain by selling " work.

John Baldessari , a pioneer of conceptual art. 10,15,20000 , along with a very " gain by selling ."

All - auction prices .
Next there is no point to continue , though the list is large and you can find a better example (and cheap) .

In general, the debate no -nonsense reality .

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Originally Posted by Cyril Syzran ; 2338391"

Canaletto, Elector of Saxony - all this, of course, very interesting, but here's how you now appreciate Puteyku ?

I am not an appraiser, and support advanced by a system of " bargain ."
Puteyku you rate in 2000, which fully complies with the maximum price of the system , as it belongs to the category 4.

If we consider that the restoration of the picture would cost a third of its price, the potential buyer , using your assessment , nothing to lose one-third of capital. Low price , according to the system - lower than 1200 (due to the restoration and anxiety).
Really a socialist realism now sell for $ 800 .

[Seriy]

Fed, then you're talking about Maitre painting, the most popular artists, as were the Impressionists in the early 20th century, gives the names of American video artists that I first heard of it.
Take the day of New York auction Phillips and watch live estimeyty known artists, but not superstars like Koons. The first pages - artists unknown to me. First got famous , Richard Prince - half a million photos and prints do not count , Jim Dine, in Russia is unknown, but in the U.S. a strong popular artist, pastel drawing more than a meter - 35 thousand, George Condo , finally , painting 30x40 cm - 30 thousand, ugly , small Richter, Baselitz , all the hundreds of thousands , and ... that's it. Other names or prints or photo or unknown to me. Buy nothing.

[Fed]

Originally Posted by Seriy; 2338601"

call the names of American video artists that I heard for the first time .

A " Winery" believes that Vito Acconci " key figure of American video art ."

John Baldessari , a pioneer of conceptual art. - Venice Biennale Golden Lion for his contribution to the arts.

And you think that they are not masters . I enjoy very expensive masters .
Are you sure that the Impressionists , were the most expensive artists in the early 20th century. ? Omit that of the five listed , 2nd , not the Americans , while George Condo burly enough unsold works with an estimate to 20.30 m (in May and acrylic on paper 75 x 56 cm - all for 7).

Again, you wrote: " Jim Dine - pastel drawing more than a meter - 35 thousand ." And I look on September 19 152,4 x 102,8 cm - 15000. Full of unsold , and to 10t. is. It's like a treat ?

[Seriy]

Fed, the Impressionists ? I think, in the early 20th century, they were already fashionable and cheap. Jim Dine and Kondo is not the most expensive, is popular middling , at the expense of the most expensive in the millions. And let's talk about art , not about video art and installations.
So there is no popular American artists in afternoon trading Phillips- of Gagosian himself trades.
You know , I'm more pleased that the auction put so many new names on the 20 th , that is doing the names, and then, and money.

[Fed]

Itself, which I cited in section prices painting.
And a much lower price auctions to you propose the same artist.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Originally Posted by Fed; 2338471"

Given that the restoration of the picture would cost a third of its price, the potential buyer , using your assessment , nothing to lose one-third of capital.

I do not know what it will lose a potential buyer using my assessment , can and will lose everything : stop it after 3 years to buy at all, for example, but I'd say the seller - this time , and based on their current capacity to sell - that's two.
A restoration there for me for 200-300 bucks.

Originally Posted by Fed; 2338471 "

Really a Socialist Realism now sell for $ 800 .

This is where social realism 50's larger than a meter by the largest sell for 24 tons of rubles?
Tell me, please .

[K-Maler]

Originally Posted by Seriy; 2338381"

in the West, for example, in the U.S., you are over 10 thousand dollars a living work of the master , but still good, do not buy

Money is a receipt for the goods.
How much is an apartment or a studio for an artist of this level in America?
In this scenario, you may find that their and our prices are comparable.
Not discuss tsyfry not binding them to the fact that you can have for them here and there ...