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Old 27-01-2013, 14:52 Original language: Russian        #21
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And here do not agree with you, sir. No-s.
Russian Roulette is not a suicide. On the contrary!
This is - a game for the possession of life.
I think - or rather I am - that's what you have written above is elementary and foolishly disregard of human life that we all the same, given Over (without delving deeper into this philosophical question.) Well, perhaps we have not lost a whole list of brilliant, worthy and potentially promising people like pranks, like the one you speak of ... a duel? We all know at least about Pushkin, Lermontov, etc. - And says nothing about how many popular history? But these arrogant and misguided young people, motivated solely emotions, false and pseudo-romantic impulses of honor, could be distinguished servants of our country, and not just ours. Why duel prohibited by law, and suicide is regarded by the Church as the greatest sin and crime (... endures to the end shall be saved - Mt. 10:22)? Can real and most loyal companions of the duelists have not tried the last effort to dissuade those "fools-fighters" from such a crazy and extreme measures, dispute resolution, and retribution absurd insults? If the concept duelizma still somehow be considered in the context of the male code of honor, the "Russian Roulette" - nothing less than a complete and linear rejection of reason and basic human natural instincts. In the vast majority, as I understand, the cases playing Russian roulette with the inevitable "drunken" (including, in the literal sense) perception of reality and the complete lack of common sense and prudence.

P.S. There is a good movie with De Niro which addressed this topic - The Deer Hunter
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I think - or rather, I am convinced - that's what you have written above is elementary and foolishly disregard of human life that we all the same, given the above (without delving deeper into this philosophical question.) Well, perhaps we have not lost a whole list of brilliant, worthy and potentially promising people like pranks, like the one you speak of ... a duel? We all know at least about Pushkin, Lermontov, etc. - And says nothing about how many popular history? But these arrogant and misguided young people, motivated solely emotions, false and pseudo-romantic impulses of honor, could be distinguished servants of our country, and not just ours. Why duel prohibited by law, and suicide is regarded by the Church as the greatest sin and crime (... endures to the end shall be saved - Mt. 10:22)? Can real and most loyal companions of the duelists have not tried the last effort to dissuade those "fools-fighters" from such a crazy and extreme measures, dispute resolution, and retribution absurd insults? If the concepts duelizma still somehow can be seen in the context of the male code of honor, the "Russian Roulette" - nothing less than a complete and linear rejection of human reason and natural instincts. In the vast majority, as I understand, the cases playing Russian roulette with the inevitable "drunken" (including, in the literal sense) perception of reality and the complete lack of common sense and reason.
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Old 27-01-2013, 15:08 Original language: Russian        #23
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Russian Roulette is not a suicide.
On the contrary!

This is - a game for the possession of life.

Pure sophistry, my dear friend!
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pure sophistry , my dear friend! )))
Against your high moral argument , dear friend, oppose something , immediately , is extremely difficult.
But you can !
In all that you have written has everything , everything except the most important - makes sense! Meaning of human existence. Life!
Not you, nor I to say to that unfortunately we can not. Therefore, the choice we make raising the trigger revolver , Or wisely recanting danger this choice , to the great happiness belongs not to us , but the fact that we call - Providence , independent of our will, and our Samoa.
A kill themselves naturally bad. But I still think that the Russian roulette and the duel is not a suicide. This is if you want poetry of life . No wonder this great abuse .
Ideally , death should not be afraid to love and not simultaneously.
But this is an ideal ...
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Old 27-01-2013, 18:14 Original language: Russian        #25
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against your high moral argument , dear friend, oppose something , immediately , is extremely difficult.
But you can !
The only thing that can oppose it ... Quite frankly , you are ready to say that could ever make muzzle of the revolver to his head and " try their luck " ?
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The only thing that can be opposed to it ... Quite frankly , you are ready to say that could ever make muzzle of the revolver to his head and try your luck ???
It's not luck . This - " fun" for psychopaths. You know, there are those American (mostly ) films, the plot of which many are trying to understand , and somehow justify. But, you know , it turns out, nothing. In the story the main character ( the head of mafia ) - idiot and egomaniac psychopath . In general, as the saying goes - all in one ... he's still an addict - pedant who uses pure heroin . It's simple. The plot of the film about a person, and all that he gets up. My opinion is that it is pointless to try to justify what justified from the point of view of common sense , you can not .. can not .




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The only thing that can be opposed to it ... Quite frankly , you are ready to say that could ever make muzzle of the revolver to his head and " try their luck "???
Oh, my dear friend , if I was willing to do it and so easily , I would not for a moment and began to rant to you about it .
While, however, I had a couple of moments in life when I was going to try TS instinct of self-preservation . But this is a different matter, and I will tell you this in person. >
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And in my naive view , Roulette comes into play when a person starts feel fate. The reasons are varied , but it is a kind of choice, so to speak. Good or bad (not suicide is IMHO ) to decide , not us, and above all those who dared to it . Also - this is not cowardice, but most of our action, one way or another , connected with cowardice.



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