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Старый 09.10.2010, 05:44 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1
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Your blohorodie

Dmitry Butkevich

In Europe, the flea markets were built in the rank of major tourist attractions. Why do not we all wrong?

 Russian antiques market has only some 20 years. And yet, despite such a short history, might have been quite a European culture of antiquity trafficking. It was not worth even invent some innovation - it was enough to simply copy the achievements of Western art world. This first auction - the most sensitive litmus paper trade. Then, shops, galleries, salons, etc., often highly specialized: antiquarian books, philately, paintings - "heavy", that is the most expensive antiques. And finally - disintegrated, "bloshinki. Where are all in a bunch - free of whatever provenance, origin, without examination, without the beautiful stories and packages. Here you can make a mistake, but you can find the treasure.

So, for 20 years, this simple little circuit we have not earned. Figures for comparison: in London were about 2 thousand antique shops, and in Moscow eight years ago, when the Ministry of Culture has to license the antique work, there were 200 points on the trade in antiques. Alas, this figure is clearly diminished in recent years. A flea market like those of us at all bent. Sorry! After all, you can build a collection, not found in the Louvre or the historic museums or the homes of wealthy lovers of beauty. Cultural layer, in one word.

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With his samovar

Recently met a friend - Vice-President of Russia's largest bank. My rhetorical question, "How are you?" Refers to gossip about the latest mergers and acquisitions, or, closer to our common interests, the latest Venice Biennale, in which its financing bank takes an active part. And he answered strangely: "Very good! Last week at Portobello has bought a magnificent Victorian armchair. Only a few thousand! Imagine, he handles the oak, such as lions, but ... "- and on an emotional description of the way for ten minutes. I asked: "How do you perevezesh it to Moscow?" To which he casually waved his hand: "Yes I have already ordered a container. But most importantly, his state of perfect ... "- and so on.

The famous Portobello Road street, which is located in the fashionable area of London - Notting Hill, and was my first overseas' bloshinkoy. Russian things here a little, but there. Prices are lower than in Moscow - after all this stuff the Brits did not close and not very clear. At Portobello I once bought an engraving depicting a Roman obelisk with a characteristic signature: Cavalier Piranesi F. The seller thought it was a thing of Francesco Piranesi, a little-known artists of the late XVII century, asked for an engraving of 100 pounds. In fact, both signed by his eldest brother Giovanni Battista, a famous engraver. F - simply meant Fecit, «made" in Latin. I knocked twice the price as paid in cash. But in Moscow, for it has already offered $ 2000.

Many of the Russian elite love to rummage through dusty antique bazaars, genuinely proud of pearls found. For the most part outside of Russia. However, when you hear the phrase "flea market", that you just remember? Tishinka spill, the collapse of the 70-80's? Or does the London Portobello, Paris Marche de Saint-Ouen and the Viennese Naschmarkt? And maybe some little thing - for example, the old dining gong, which was bought at one of the world "bloshinok": trendy British Flea market, strict Austro-Prussian Flohmarkt, romantic French Marche aux Puces ...

Funny name - flea market - is present (in that form) in all European languages. No European capital or major city in America, flea markets, not only does not hesitate, on the contrary, they are listed in all guides, guidebooks: after coming into the country and not visit the flea market - means nothing about her beyond recognition. This is a very special atmosphere, almost a part of national culture and history. And certainly no one here will look around shyly, rummaging in the junk. In Russia, buying things at the rag pickers for some reason thought the lot of poor people to the same private trade was incompatible with Communist principles. Fighting glove crush the Union was a regular. But neither the police raids, no bullpen, no severe visual propaganda is not helping. Markets were closed and again opened it here and there.

The Moscow flea »

In the 1980 European-classic "bloshinka, with a touch of traditional cultural dissidence in Moscow, turned on Tishinsky market. Tishinka has become a cult place for the future stars of Russia's alternative fashion. From this came a whole galaxy of Soviet perestroika, the Russian fashion-Petljura, Katja Filippova, here inspired protest rock band mid-80's (remember the film "Assa" is entirely built on Tishinsky design material). Foreigners come here to get acquainted with the peculiarities of Russian national character ... But in the early 90 Tishinka closed, partially relocated traders Sov exotics on Old Arbat.

Other capital market - Izmailovsky - seem almost eternal. He started in some immemorial the Soviet years, has passed through the storms of perestroika and the new Russia feels like a good idea. In the early 90's, when the Soviet Union was a big fashion, foreigners bought "on the opening day pictures of nonconformists, souvenirs, watches and all sorts of commanding others. That's what remembers Advisor to the Chairman Master Bank Yegor Altmann, a collector with experience: "There was a real cultural center. You could see the artist, who himself sold his work. It is even and the market could not be called, rather - live opening day, the daily exhibition, which dragged everything from all sides of our vast great motherland. And where at 7 am the most educated collectors, with a flashlight, a cold, went and looked out that my grandparents brought from their villages. " A decade ago, a businessman-collector for the mere penny bought in Izmailovo two very cool poster 19-year. White soldiers killed Chinese Red Army, which, among other things, a lot of fighting on the side of the Bolsheviks. Passing by the collapse of the Soviet posters, he wondered whether posters issued in the Civil War "white" (after all, and they were the propaganda department and visual propaganda). Suddenly, it was at this seller and they were. Indeed, some say that the flea market - it's unpredictability, search and discovery.

In recent years, Moscow's main folk "bloshinka Mark" settled near the platform of the same name in the Lianozovo and there was semi-officially-polustihiyno, struggling as a spring here and there years of commercials fifteen. She ran two kilometers along the railway. Range there has always been very different - from the tattered jackets to Samovar. Of course, "van educators" and "Stradivarius" are never met. For the most part - the Soviet artifacts, objects that twenty years ago there were almost in every house, and now are rarities. Someone found beaten the pad under the switch to the wall around do not get dirty from hands, or a bronze monkey holding in the paws of a jar with salt and pepper. Or, remember, plastic IDs toilet and bathroom (the toilet boy peeing into a pot, a girl in the bath bubbles foam). From the same series - hanger in the form of dogs. And even binoculars, irons, gramophones, canes, galoshes, felt hats and generally different tailoring cloths and poshiba. Now the market is moved to the station Novopodrezkovo October Railway.

What is Bazaar?

However, we also found a more "glamorous" options-brokanty (from the French word brocante - «a bad product," "junk") for the respective layers of the population. For example, since 2006, worked as Fair Flea Market at Nikolina Gora ", which sold briskly and copyright boots, and vintage silver, vintage hats and novodelnymi copyright. In 2009, the market opened "Art Bloch" in Arkhangelsk. Promised that he would work on weekends throughout the year, reviving the traditions established by the owners of another estate of Prince Yusupov, who on holidays offers access to the territory of his estate to local residents, arrange a fair in the park lord's manor. However, it does not matter. About two years ago were in the center of Moscow flea markets to revive. The first concern for the poor and pensioners - just them and provided free parking in these markets during the presentation of relevant documents. "Flea experiments" performed on Taganka Outdoor School. The project is now closed and in the metropolitan department of consumer market and services to comment from a flea market did not want to.

It turns out that, apart from withstood flea markets, actually in the center of Moscow there are only two projects, which operate several times a year on weekends. This "VinzavodARTbazar" - he held in one of the most hyped now metropolitan areas of contemporary art. In fact, it's just fair and sale of products of young designers. And the art project "Flea Market, fairs which are now four times a year. Nearest already eighteenth account fair the other day called on Tishinskaya area. Come here are wealthy people who are looking for what is now called vintage.

As they say eyewitnesses, the most interesting aspect of trade - the installation of the exhibits, which are either trade, or exchange of goods between parties: an engraving of selling, buying vintage hat, and instead of bakelite hair dryer becomes the owner of the damper for the furnace Kasli casting. Often, regular customers come for a few hours before the official opening: at this moment tense atmosphere of the show, as before gambling hunting. But how often do here is extracted worthy trophies?

For example, one of the regulars Tishinka Alexander Gafin, a member of the Board of Directors Rietumu Banka, said that "recently there selling some not very interesting subjects, and for some unknown price. Moscow - not a place where a lot of interesting things. Peter, of course, was the "pantry" antiques. But now Peter is strongly poiznosilsya. That is all bought, taken out, whether the resource of our pre-revolutionary ancestors dried up. In general, their bulldog (y Gafin famous collection of toy bulldogs. - "Results") I've bought it to "bloshinkah" and in Italy and in London earlier in Moscow. " On the domestic "bloshinkah, there are other collectors, really long time since there are more or less facing things. Perhaps because of constant harassment and displacement of these markets in a small space in Moscow and Moscow region. Unlikely to be reached Novopodrezkova owner zingerovskoy old sewing machine or Meissen porcelain figures, but in Izmailovo and Tishinka she can not afford to stand ...

I'm going to look

CEO Finance Corporation URALSIB Alexander Vikhrov prefer to visit flea markets of old Europe: "I remember in the early 90's on the Falcon was a disaster before the collapse of the children's magazine. I have since survived many gadgets bought for a pittance. I am sure that, as the present "fair weekend, which sell good quality products cheaply, just need to open and regional flea markets. As in Paris. And poor people will be an aid. "

Flea market civilized city like it is really necessary. "If Moscow were to provide a seat for the Sunday market in the city - according to the director of the exhibition company" EKSPODIUM Marina Smirnova - but not in the immediate suburbs, it will be a gift for Muscovites. In fact, the only place you can find a real vintage exclusive. For a few hundred rubles to buy a genuine Kuznetsovsky china, perfume bottles from the pre-revolutionary, Soviet polurazbitye computers, old records, books and photo albums of people who lived a hundred years ago. In general, if not to spare any time to search, you will become owner of a unique artifact. Here, unless a miracle coexist alongside busts of Lenin and sets times of Tsarist Russia, Komsomol badges and vintage fashion magazines.

And where else costume designer of the Moscow film studios (which, incidentally, frequent visitors "bloshinok") buy cheap props for the next fiscal historic epohalki? Marginalized collector - find their eternal coins-stamps-postcard-book. Antiques, finally. True, it certainly is now very rare "guest" crush. Fashion historian Alexander Vasilyev - vintage clothes to fuel his famous collection.

Years of experience in Western capitals suggests that the existence of flea collapse almost in the heart of the city is quite possible and even harmony. Vice-President of the Russian Guild of Appraisers, director of the gallery "Belvedere", an art dealer with 20 years of experience Oleg Tairov believes that "Moscow will certainly need flea markets, but not in the way it is now. It must be disintegrated, where you can buy cheap variety of antiques and art, and where necessary be easy to get. In all European cities Sunday "bloshinki operate in the city center. In Nice, I remember, I bought a beautiful French engraving of XVII century in just a 20 euro - such miracles happen. In Zurich, admiring the old sewing machines, old cash registers and other authentic items of the XIX century. "

But without the goodwill and assistance of the municipal authorities can not do. Not necessary to define a "bloshinku" main street, you can simply make a market in any garden and park area, for example, in the Garden. Yes, that's Crimean embankment next to the main house painter than bad? Flea Market is decorated and animates any city.
 
http://www.itogi.ru/kultura/2010/38/156925.html



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Why are we all wrong?

And we do not like that.



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In Europe, the flea markets were built in the rank of major tourist attractions.
Why do not we all wrong?
A sense of the officials is to keep?
(This is necessary for humans), with grandparents taking bribes hard .. but without the incentive, "public servants" Well .. in the chair will not raise.



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And we do not like that.
Do not worry.
If this article "draw" on a Germany, the article is totally wrong.
Firstly, the information behind the current situation in 10-15 years at least.
Second, it pulls the propaganda, rather then pulling one's interests, etc.
In Germany, at flea markets, antique collector's level is already long gone.
eBay is a broader and productive platform for the sale.
In Germany there is a network organized by the antique markets.
Here is their schedule: http://www.interantik-gmbh.de/termine/index.php
However, there are only trade pros and ask, usually 3x the price.
As for the "main tourist attractions, there is.
There are trading at 99.99%remakes, where is all type of antiques.



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An interesting perspective on patriotism.

BG remember once:




The Patriots will say that I gave up the slack,

Almost sold their home country.


 



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do not go to the classics, and in the next three months are going to Hamburg on Galkina, New Babok Trofimov
No accounting for tastes
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We know the most "cultural" on the forum, Irina
C'mon, the most "cultural" is Bozena Rynska - no wonder you often cite its
I just get pleasure from classical music concerts, while in the car listening to Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre
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And this gentlemen patriots, as "there the" and "local."

Hospital for Infectious Diseases of the Kaliningrad region. Nevertheless, a complex of buildings of the former military hospital survived the bombing and the Soviet regime.
Contingent of patients in the wards are HIV infected, all forms of tuberculosis, hepatitis, liver cirrhosis and various kinds of poisoning conditions. whom live in the local patients, leaves no doubt-Russia rose from his knees and stepped 21.
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По умолчанию Continuing the theme of flea markets ...

... Oh, the famous Odessa flea market, a great flea market, one of the few that miraculously survived while, even formally legalized, fabulous islands of private initiative and entrepreneurship! Under the open sky, a huge area, fenced on all four sides by a high fence, boils, dusts, shouting, laughing and lamenting the myriad, innumerable human set, it spills out onto adjacent streets and alleyways, peremahivaet over the fence is in direct proximity to the flea market of the Jewish cemetery ...

Oh, flea market!

Already more than once a day, the newly appointed chief of the proud city party committee and city executive committee tried to raise the issue of its closure. And then a miracle happened - first somewhere in the distance began to rumble intermittently thunder and lightning posverkivat, mysterious tremors were felt, the oscillation of the soil, the earth parted and it was on the very spot where there is Odessa, formed a deep crack in this crack completely and forever falling down unfortunate zealous boss closed up the land again, and flea market, although it moved to some new place, as if nothing had happened continued to live his unspeakable, hideous, and cheering his life ...

Oh, flea market, flea market, crush, push, amazing skolok human world, where deception is not a shame, but on the contrary - a matter of honor, glory, valor and heroism, where everyone wants to cheat everyone - seller of the buyer, the buyer and seller where, in the end , in some incomprehensible way, are all deceived, even the most cunning and successful ...

Alexander Galich
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Starokon market - one of the oldest in Odessa:
In 1832 it was decided to organize a so-called cattle BAZAAR - in Moldavanka for Peter and Paul Church, on land owned by the city. This decision was implemented next summer, 1833, the year. If the conduct count on that date, and it appears that the current Starokon (nee - livestock bazaar) - about 170 years.
Now Starokon cattle market certainly does not sell, except for cattle, dogs, cats and parrots from different turtles. Yes on Starokon today perhaps the largest "bird" Bazaar in Odessa. In addition, here now sell a variety of strotelno and okolostroitelnye goods. But the most interesting happens at the weekend flea market. You can not buy anything, just look here nashonibud ...
See for yourself (pictures from http://photopolygon.com/photostories...m=free-posting)
http://all-odessa.blogspot.com/2008/...g-post_07.html
 Did you know that in Odessa, there are collectors of odors that are buying vintage bottle which was left a drop of perfume. Did you know that the Chinese are buying on the market Starakonnom antiques, and a few months later copies appear in souvenir shops around the world. http://botinok.co.il/taxonomy/term/35107
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Старый 09.10.2010, 18:05 Язык оригинала: Русский       #9
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Minuet (Timur Shaov)

Gentlemen, gentlemen, good and bad,
Pour vodka and Discharge gun.
I suggest to forget about the time of dashing,
Exit systems, dance a minuet.

S human nature craves the Enlightenment -
We'll go to the exhibition, we go to the ballet.
Is there such a thing called culture ...
And quite often lose something you grab for the gun again?
Читать дальше... 

To a beautiful soul aspires!
Give me, comrade, I advice:
Then go to Mademoiselle sober,
Then Mademoiselle descend us ballet?
Perhaps, though, the ballet?

... Bon Soir, Madame ... Where eyeglasses, my dear? ..
... Prince, you're so cute! .. Baroness, I'm melting! ..
... Today at the Mariinsky gave "La Sylphide" ...
... Oh, requiring bien, mon cher, requiring Bien.
Ah, friction bien, mon cher, requiring Bien.

As we degrade you look, what's going on,
Age at us, my comrade, so decadent.
I get drunk is not just, say,
                Aby drink -
I drink myself in context common grief World.

No former romance
                No one looks at the sky.
Values funny as family cowards.
Roman plebs roared once:
                "Spectacles and bread!"
We now yapping: "Pops and sausages!".


On the river floating gate of the village Kukuyev,
And my Milcah dislikes Schnittke
Says: "Yeah, well, Yawo" -
Degradantka devil.

Put on your coat, can become a cultural,
Let us all day to dance a minuet.
Shall we spit only in the urn,
Like any intelligent,
Like any other intellectual.

About the culture told me wino litany:
"Explain, bespectacled, and then I have not doper:
Ezhli our people drink tequila instead of vodka,
About what culture you conduct conversation? "

On the mountain man stood with burning eyes,
Explaining to the people of that culture, that is sinful.
A crowd was waiting when they start to feed loaves of bread,
And most importantly - when smostyryat out of the water wine.

Not kill, not pei liquor
Do not steal other people's things,
Do not love the wife of another,
You're my least appease,
You're my least appease.

And, incidentally, decided for himself, wife of thy fool,
Teach her to dance a minuet though.
With us, virtue, morality and culture,
Tomorrow comes to ballet,
Tomorrow comes to ballet.


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[QUOTE="iside; 1318141]Yes, God is with them, let them have fun, if it's the only way for them to raise self-esteem and feel superior[/QUOTE]

[B][I][COLOR="Navy"]Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.[/COLOR][/I][/B] (c)


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