"Kidalovo, falshak, deception (psevdogalerei) - Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство

NATA NOVA · 13.02.2010, 12:52

Reality shows (based on inter alia) that
lopuhnutsya (catch the deception) artists (creative person) can very easily .. (especially if you do not own the language and are not familiar with Western characteristics and mentality)
Propose to collect this information about the false and incorrect sentences, contests, grants, rezidentstyah galleries, funds, etc.
Uncertain addresses incomprehensible invitation letter.
Also propose here to describe the pitfalls and hidden costs of various contests, fairs and non-compliance.
Try to keep the topic strictly informative, pzhlst.
(Although doubts still share do not hesitate)

To begin with the last "свежак:

Here is a list of recent Fraudulent approaches made to artists:

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Veronic · 13.02.2010, 15:44

Nata, good topic, I have long thought it up.
I once described your own experience of receiving such a letter on the site ÀðòÍàó. I will try to find this theme and copy here.

Dear artists!

Many times raises a question kidalovo and the Nigerian letters. I want here in this new theme to put the text of the letter, which can lead to unpleasant consequences and loss of money, if you vovolecheny in this game. The text of the original quote. If you receive such a letter. just ignoriryte it. If you want to make sure fraud in person, then just paste the text of this letter in the search engine Google.

I was just looking through an art web site and came across your Gallery. Hope you are good today? I am presently converting my Home to a guest house for Commercial purpose and would like to have some of your renowned works in the rooms of the Guest House. I tried to search for your detailed website so I can select some art works but could not get any web page that would assist me.

Kindly make a selection of some of your works for 10 rooms in the Apartment so we can discuss and make payment. Hope you accept credit card as means of payment? Thanks and have a great day as I look forward to speaking with you.

I just looked through the art website and ran into your Gallery. I hope that you all are well today? I am now engaged in design of his house and convert it into a small hotel with a commercial purpose and therefore would like to purchase some of your famous works in the room of my small hotel. I tried to find your website to choose some work, but could not get a web page that will help me.

Please make a selection from some of your works for the 10 rooms in the apartment. I would have wanted us to discuss the details and I will pay. I hope you accept credit cards as a means of payment?
Thank you I wish a pleasant day and hope to speak with you.

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Message from the tap
And that this letter kidalnogo.Perevod, in general, correct))) Explain)) I have a lot of letters comes this subject, though, with references from past clients. I really do not understand what the catch?

The catch in the first place that the alleged buyer was not drawn to the artist by name! He writes simply distinguished or greetings. When they really want to buy something treated, usually by name.

Second, is not written specifically about what the work in question, and immediately wanted to buy a lot of pictures!

Third, what does not find the website? Address found, but no website? And then does a link where specifically saw the picture. Somehow the abstract said. One gets the feeling that many at once sent the same letter.

And most importantly, the introduction of text messages in the Google search link goes to several sites, and everywhere is worth the attention of fraud! Letter from the same, and the name of the sender always different!

If this does not convince you, then when you receive a letter can enter into dialogue, and to send money to anyone who is interested in your pictures.

Good luck!

In general, here the whole branch with this topichttp://artnow.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=5430

Евгений · 13.02.2010, 15:51

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To begin with the last "свежак":

Dear, Have you ever Explain what the problem ..?

Veronic · 13.02.2010, 16:01

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Dear, Have you ever Explain what the problem ..?

Eugene, this is really a serious problem.
There comes a letter from the artist, for example. He was glad that he had received the order. Then the client allegedly said that he would send a check as payment. The artist receives a check, go to the bank. Check accepted for review in a week (more or less, maybe once) the bank pays the check and the check always comes to the amount several times greater than was initially agreed. The buyer said that his secretary apparently was mistaken, and requests to send the balance money to Western Union in South Africa, for example. Artist sends money and waiting when the customer tells where to send pictures. But this customer does not need painting, but only money. In general, after some time the artist's call to the bank and reported that after the final verification check was false, that is, from one exists, but his boss will NEVER check for a similar sum. What will happen next, you can imagine.

NATA NOVA · 13.02.2010, 16:12

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Dear, Have you ever Explain what the problem ..?

Probably I should have noted that "the theme for the artists, but from the context (the first line) and thought that this is so yasno.Hudozhnikov forum podnasobralos enough already and I wanted to warn them.
In the first post samples of fresh letters. received by artists from all the names and addresses. who should beware. Now clear? You are probably not concerned, perhaps. (yet)

Евгений · 13.02.2010, 16:18

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Check accepted for review a week (more or less, maybe once) the bank pays the check,

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bank and report that after the final verification check was fake

This is a problem bank, generally strange situation .. It turns out the bank can show your any paper (not the approval of funds) to get money and to live peacefully in the Canaries? Tales .. must wait bank employees (at the forum there), listen to their comments ...

Veronic · 13.02.2010, 16:28

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This is the problem of the bank, generally strange situation .. It turns out the bank can show your any paper (not the approval of funds) to get money and to live peacefully in the Canaries? Tales .. must wait bank employees (at the forum there), listen to their comments ...

Yes, it was nice to hear, especially as we ourselves have received such a check and this is no fairy tale. It was a few years ago when we began work on the Internet. A letter in English, a man called by name, called the two paintings, which wanted to buy, bargained for a small discount. In general agreement on the amount of 5000 dollars. Came in check in the amount of 6000 pounds. The letter was from London, with no return address label and stamp. In general, I did not go to the bank and climbed into the Internet, where English-speaking sites people who complete the program suffered from a similar fraud described how they came to the bank with a check, as received him money, and then how to hack bank on police. One man wrote that he agreed to pay all this money and still pay the same amount, so this whole nightmare is over. And people are not selling paintings and other things, so to speak, that they Lochy-artists can not.

In general, after reading these posts I had written "client" that the bank refused to cash in a check and I want to send it back and asked to address. After this "customer" lost, check and stayed with me.

NATA NOVA · 13.02.2010, 16:32

Eugene, sure, you do not face! (You're not an artist, or half a word would understand)

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After this "customer" lost, check and stayed with me.

In kollazhik it, kollazhik!

Veronic · 13.02.2010, 16:35

Nate, let's wait until the bankers to join if they want, check scans and set up.

NATA NOVA · 13.02.2010, 16:37

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Nath, let's wait until the bankers to join if they want, check scans and set up.

Wonderful idea! "And letters to the same! (In kollazhik)

13.02.2010, 12:52	Язык оригинала: Русский #1
NATA NOVA Гуру Регистрация: 23.07.2009 Сообщений: 5,736 Спасибо: 8,058 Поблагодарили 4,382 раз(а) в 2,259 сообщениях Записей в дневнике: 2 Репутация: 8507	"Kidalovo, falshak, deception (psevdogalerei) Reality shows (based on inter alia) that lopuhnutsya (catch the deception) artists (creative person) can very easily .. (especially if you do not own the language and are not familiar with Western characteristics and mentality) Propose to collect this information about the false and incorrect sentences, contests, grants, rezidentstyah galleries, funds, etc. Uncertain addresses incomprehensible invitation letter. Also propose here to describe the pitfalls and hidden costs of various contests, fairs and non-compliance. Try to keep the topic strictly informative, pzhlst. (Although doubts still share do not hesitate) To begin with the last "свежак: Here is a list of recent Fraudulent approaches made to artists: Читать дальше... Cash-back Fraud - 'Janet Clark: jan.clark010 @ googlemail.com Initial message: "Hope this message finds you well. I saw these creatives works on your web site and i will like you to get back with more details if they are still available for purchase. I will appreciate an urgent reply. " ... The correspondence became more and more bizarre, ending after her husband sent a check for $ 4500, more than twice the price of the work she wanted to buy. She asked that I deposit the check and give the overpayment to her moving company which was responsible for picking up the work. When I refused and said I was returning the check, I did not hear from them again. Besides this last absurd issue and the odd grammar and vocabulary, another tip-off was that she would not tell me how she found my work. This is a classic example of a cash-back fraud. The check would have turned out to be fraudulent and the artist would be out of pocket for the 'shipping'. Nuisance Emailer: First Name: Morgan Last Name: Cole Email: morganrtwrk78@gmail.com Message: Hi how are you doing? i will like to show my interest in your work let me know the last price you are will to sell the art work You can contact me on my email morganrtwrk78@gmail.com, so that we can talk beter Nuisance emailer: sherif alex Email: shef2k2@yahoo.com Message: Dear Sir, First Africa Arts Galary is an independent home of visual arts.First Africa Arts Galary is base in Ghana West Africa. We have alot of ambitious youth who are trying to sell their African idiologies in arts to the rest of the world. First Africa Arts Galary established contemporary art galleries and institutions in paint works, carving and mulding as well. With regards to the forth coming Embassy Gallery, we want to be part of the programme.Kindly let us have an invitation letter.This will therefore serve as a new step of building a good relationship between The Embassy Gallery and First Africa Arts Galary Arts. If there is anything we should do, please do not hersitate to inform us so that we can be part of the wonderfull world event.Waiting to hearing from you soon.You may send us the invitation through our postal address below for any other programme you would host in future. Yours faithfully, Sheriff A. First Africa Arts Galary P. O. BOX 2056 CANTONMENT-ACCRA +233244115552 +233246115552 Unusual approach: Marc Weuker Email: marcweuk@optonline.net Message: Dear artist I am an avid collector of African American art. I have never considered photography as I try to stick with one medium. Yet while streaming the web for art in my area, I stumbled into your website. The photo "Jess" is just incredible!!! I would like to own one, but the price of $ 1100. is steep for me - not that your talent doesn't command it. Nevertheless, is there some chance I can go through you to obtain this "piece" rather than the gallery and do better? Hopefully, M. Weuker Nuisance Emailer: 'David Roberts' Email: robertsdav32@yahoo.fr Message: Mr David roberts It's pleasure to acquaint you with this proposal for a financial and busines isssue. Don't worry I was totally convinced to write you in reference to the transfer of $ 14.5M to your account for onward investment in your country. Pls get back for more info. regards Mr David roberts Nuisance emailer: Rita Aliyu ritanice88@yahoo.com Hello My dearest, How are you doing today with your health. I believe that you are alright.My name is Rita.You have a nice artistic profile which interests me, i believe we will be good friends.My dear can i trust you, i need some one i will trust and call him my own, i need a trust worthy person.tell me about yourself.i believe so much in honesty .. i am looking for an honest person who i can trust and share my hole love with ... you can contact me through my email addressI will be waiting to hear from you soonest. Your new friend. MISS Rita Calos David calos.david2504 @ gmail.com Message: Hi how are you doing, i will like to buy your art work (name of work) to my new apartment in Copenhagen, so let me know if we can a have deal on it Thanks Penn Cage penncage@dfsservices.us Message: Please Let me know your artworks that are still available for sale. Penn Cage. Steve Adams steveadams7199@yahoo.com Message: Hello to you out there. I am so excited that I came across of your work on internet search, I am interested in purchasing some creative artworks from you let me know their various prices.and how much discounts are you going to give? I will be happy to have these selected artworks hanged in our new home in South Africa. As well, I want you to take out the shipping cost.I have been in touch with a shipping firm that will be shipping other house decoratives, We are travelling from our Dallas home to our new apartment as soon as possible.On Paying for the artworks, I will be glad to pay you with a Cashier check or Money order from the US Bank that can be easily cashed at your local bank, please let me know on how to proceed, Have a wonderful day. Take Care, Mr Steve Adams .... Jane Francis jan.fran01 @ yahoo.com Hi, Happy New Year. Hope this message finds you well. I saw these creatives works on your web site and i will like you to get back with more details if they are still available for purchase. I will appreciate an urgent reply. Best Regards, Janet. --------------------------------- Artist members of re-title.com, and other sites should be aware that they may receive fraudulent approaches from time to time. These are usually obvious for a number of reasons including poor language, bad grammar, lack of detailed contact info, etc, but most importantly they are too quick to discuss the buying of works and shipping costs. --- ---------------- If you receive such a letter published here-chorus Let's take!

13.02.2010, 15:44	Язык оригинала: Русский #2
Veronic Гуру Регистрация: 17.12.2008 Адрес: Украина Мукачево, Венгрия Хевиз Сообщений: 2,165 Спасибо: 1,793 Поблагодарили 1,718 раз(а) в 574 сообщениях Записей в дневнике: 4 Репутация: 2879	Nata, good topic, I have long thought it up. I once described your own experience of receiving such a letter on the site ÀðòÍàó. I will try to find this theme and copy here. Dear artists! Many times raises a question kidalovo and the Nigerian letters. I want here in this new theme to put the text of the letter, which can lead to unpleasant consequences and loss of money, if you vovolecheny in this game. The text of the original quote. If you receive such a letter. just ignoriryte it. If you want to make sure fraud in person, then just paste the text of this letter in the search engine Google. I was just looking through an art web site and came across your Gallery. Hope you are good today? I am presently converting my Home to a guest house for Commercial purpose and would like to have some of your renowned works in the rooms of the Guest House. I tried to search for your detailed website so I can select some art works but could not get any web page that would assist me. Kindly make a selection of some of your works for 10 rooms in the Apartment so we can discuss and make payment. Hope you accept credit card as means of payment? Thanks and have a great day as I look forward to speaking with you. I just looked through the art website and ran into your Gallery. I hope that you all are well today? I am now engaged in design of his house and convert it into a small hotel with a commercial purpose and therefore would like to purchase some of your famous works in the room of my small hotel. I tried to find your website to choose some work, but could not get a web page that will help me. Please make a selection from some of your works for the 10 rooms in the apartment. I would have wanted us to discuss the details and I will pay. I hope you accept credit cards as a means of payment? Thank you I wish a pleasant day and hope to speak with you. Quote: Message from the tap And that this letter kidalnogo.Perevod, in general, correct))) Explain)) I have a lot of letters comes this subject, though, with references from past clients. I really do not understand what the catch? The catch in the first place that the alleged buyer was not drawn to the artist by name! He writes simply distinguished or greetings. When they really want to buy something treated, usually by name. Second, is not written specifically about what the work in question, and immediately wanted to buy a lot of pictures! Third, what does not find the website? Address found, but no website? And then does a link where specifically saw the picture. Somehow the abstract said. One gets the feeling that many at once sent the same letter. And most importantly, the introduction of text messages in the Google search link goes to several sites, and everywhere is worth the attention of fraud! Letter from the same, and the name of the sender always different! If this does not convince you, then when you receive a letter can enter into dialogue, and to send money to anyone who is interested in your pictures. Good luck! In general, here the whole branch with this topichttp://artnow.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=5430 Последний раз редактировалось Veronic; 13.02.2010 в 15:53.

13.02.2010, 16:35	Язык оригинала: Русский #9
Veronic Гуру Регистрация: 17.12.2008 Адрес: Украина Мукачево, Венгрия Хевиз Сообщений: 2,165 Спасибо: 1,793 Поблагодарили 1,718 раз(а) в 574 сообщениях Записей в дневнике: 4 Репутация: 2879	Nate, let's wait until the bankers to join if they want, check scans and set up.