AP Bogolyubov (1824-1896). Ship - Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство

John Preston · 22.09.2008, 04:05

Hello, dear forum users!
How much should this job cost in case of confirmation of authorship?
Size - 65 to 81 cm, requires restoration.
A signature is not quite similar to the reference.
Maybe "zalipuha - perelitsovka?

Евгений · 22.09.2008, 06:52

Bogolyubov - founder of the Saratov State Museum
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showpo...mp;postcount=7
In the catalog of more than 200 of his works.
Naturally with the Saratov experts and have nachinat.Stoimost painting is the second time, but if true, is very expensive ..

Тютчев · 22.09.2008, 07:31

Dear John I understand you still interested in opinions of the forum on the authenticity of the picture. In my opinion (in this case) enough pictures that would understand that this work can not belong to the brush Alexei Petrovich Bogolyubov. Written this thing is very weak and at the first Comparing (even with the early work) can not withstand any criticism of either. Bogolyubov was an academician and the owner of a large gold medal (it was a very serious and the least numerous campaign). In 1953 Alexei Petrovich on orders from the highest appointed artist Sea Lord. He had a very close relationship with the family of the Russian emperor. He made friends with Turgenev and fruitful contact with barbizontsami (which are very highly valued his work). A comparison of these facts and pictures are very difficult to believe in this picture. As the price of the genuine work of AP Hierarchy of the same size and the plot then the price should be somewhere around $ 1.000.000-$ 1.500.000. That's my opinion.

Евгений · 22.09.2008, 07:57

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Maybe "zalipuha - perelitsovka??

If this build, why bother to show work? (In this section?)

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Signature is not quite similar to the reference.

This is not the basis of attribution.

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In my opinion (in this case) enough pictures,

So just to scare John Preston but do not.
Looked catalog Saratov Museum (especially the small works), there are many weak t.ch.nado works quietly to the attribution ...

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Signature is not quite similar to the reference.

Where are you watching?
In the directory http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showpo...mp;postcount=7: № 85, № 199, № 220 signatures almost like ...

John Preston · 22.09.2008, 10:10

Where are you watching?
In the directory http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showpo...mp;postcount=7: № 85, № 199, № 220 signatures almost like ...[/QUOTE]

I watched "The catalog of painting XVIII-XX centuries" State Tretyakov Gallery in 1952 in its 3 variants of the signature, with a large preload is like only one ...

uriart · 22.09.2008, 10:23

Guys!
Hope is not even the fact that it Bogolyubov!
I have not written before, because quite been sure the mentioned words!

Евгений · 22.09.2008, 10:39

John Preston, If there is 1 chance in 100 and then check .. canvas stretcher old t.ch.ne everything here is clear ..

[color="# 666686"]Added after 2 minutes[/color]

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I watched "The catalog of painting XVIII-XX centuries" State Tretyakov Gallery in 1952 in its 3 variants of the signature, with a large preload is like only one ...

We must look more complete catalog of hierarchy.

Meister · 22.09.2008, 11:01

John Preston, take a look at ... If the provenance of the series: "whole life was hanging by her grandmother" quietly smile, give back, and do not even think about it ...

Евгений · 22.09.2008, 11:08

John Preston, Yes Meister, rights, provenance, we did not hear ..

John Preston · 22.09.2008, 22:29

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John Preston, Yes Meister, rights, provenance, we did not hear ..

Provenance me so far and most are not known.
I contact a dealer in France, offering me this picture to see him, but he has not replied to me ...

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