I do not even know where to put this material, which was published yesterday in the newspaper Le Joao Vila-Cha - maybe it would have to hang out in the "Auction", as it clearly runs on the preparation of bidding, which will take place next week - Talent Hirst, at least in the field of advertising and commercial activity is indisputable. Working with metals (precious, indeed), Hirst has learned that the most important - good warm up material. Well, read it, maybe someone will forumistov their desire not to succumb to exhortations insidious gallerists and buy yourself one of the masterpieces
LF Why you nazyvli his exhibition-sale «Beautiful inside my head forever»?
JH Oh God, I do not know it - as the title of a poem or a sculpture. Proto I thought that it matches the theme of the exhibition, the relations between art and money, all these disputes about witnessing the artist at auction. I just thought that while the beauty for you - most importantly, you are ready for any situation.
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LF You very much criticized for the fact that you are too close relationship between art and money. Why do not you sviyu organized an exhibition in some museum?
JH Frankly, I'm afraid of museums.
LF But you have submitted their works to the Tate ...
JH Most exhibitions in museums raise the idea of the artist's death. I love museums, but for the art they are the last stage, stage "last holiday". Sooner or later, the artist is in a museum, but he should not hurry to get there as a museum - is the end of life of the artist. I love the tender, they are more democratic. Mroy business manager supported me in this idea, while all the gallery tried to dissuade me. Many of those who buy iskussto at auction, do not enter into the gallery, which are available only for a select audience. I like this idea, because all the abuse it - I like to choose the wrong path. When I began studying art auction houses did not occupy such an important place in the market. I see their success in a kind of democracy, and I like it: at the auction there is more and more customers, more and more collectors, prices are rising, and I like it. I am glad that it destroys the established system.
LF Do you intend to monitor all stages, from creation of the work before its sale? You - for "total control»?
JH I am totally for "total control". I do not know if this is needed, but it is so. Being an artist, completely subordinate to his world view - this is "total control". It operates an artist-plastic, so works director - the owner of the film aloschadke - sometimes he has to pozhertvovavt good manners to get around him /her. The money is already present at the creation of works of art. This constant presence of money in art - an integral part of our time, look at the music industry, where everything is changing rapidly.
As if the old club for singles suddenly turned into a casino. I can not change this situation, I am merely stating it. I try to take it into account, to react. This question sensations and instinct.
LF Do You Listen to criticism?
JH Perhaps the most murderous for me, is when the art critic attacked my work, and I see that he was right. Worst of all, I agree with him. But I do not care about my work when they say that it is crap.
LF What do you expect from these trades? Even more recognition? Thrills?
JH For me it is - how to set the flag on the moon. Being the first artist who went straight from the studio up for sale - "cool!". This takes some courage. Many young artists feel that I am good boy, they admire the fact that I was not afraid to take the risk at this stage of my career. When you are already a success, there is a temptation not to take any further risks.
LF It's really risky for you?
JH Yes. I have nightmares in which the gallery owner can persuade the public to participate in the auction. Nobody bargains! No one raises his hands! Of course, I'm afraid orgomnogo failure, that everything will remain unsold. Look at the news from Georgia, this disaster can devastate a world-class auction rooms in one day. Art - a market of entertainment, therefore, everything can instantly collapse.
LF Do you like So take a leap into the abyss and?
JH I always did. I was most stimulated when I say: "That's impossible." When I started, one gallery owner told me: "You can not sell it for 10000 euros. I wanted to make a shark. I said: "Come on you all ..." and made it. For me there are no established rules. This is - how to tell your child that he should draw in a certain format, it is absurd. I like the phrase Brancusi, he said: "When you cease to be a child - you're already dead." All children draw, and then stop.
LF Any person the child lives. Each artist is his mother. What is your mother was?
JH It was wonderful. Her name was Mary. She loved art, but ceased to believe in themselves because of poor teacher of fine art. She soon dropped out of school - in 15 years. Now she is encouraging me. When I felt that I had finished my drawing, she attached to him another sheet of paper - picture became more and more. I drew soldiers, tanks, cavalry, and the figure gradually became overwhelming.
LF Your mother, of Irish descent. Will I lose you as something Irish?
JH I sing to my children, although false - it is certainly an Irish trait. My business manager, an Irishman, one might even say that he was an Irishman in a square. Unlike me, he believes in God. I'm more interested in facts. I do not believe in fairy tales with fairies, the Irish believe in them.
LF In what do you believe?
JH In art! Because it always surprises and highlights of my days. Art! I prefer museums science than art museums. I love the huge stuffed tigers. Aquariums. I was the only one in the family, who loved museums. I drive my children to the London Museum of Natural Sciences to show them the dinosaurs. His pieces seem to me a miracle, and I always wanted my art was like them. The most brilliant reaction of the audience in the gallery, is when he says: "Wow!", That is, when he was taken aback. Art - this is not bad copies pollokovskih spray. Make art - is to confront those who do not believe that what you are doing is art. Confronting a hostile audience.
LF Now you no longer in danger, that you will suffocate success?
JH My audience - the audience is in front of one of my works. My task is not to seduce her and bring her reaction, simultaneously attract and repel. There are always things that are not immediately clear, at first you do not understand, you may even oppose, but at some point, they start to like you. This is just what I want.
LF You - King oxymoron?
JH Yes, I like that. The artist is looking for more questions, not answers. He says he does not "now answer", and "that's the question."
LF When you give a religious name of a cow carcass, you are interested in religion or the sacrilege?
JH I am a Catholic, up to 12 years I was brought up in this system of values, but now I do not believe in it. However, even in the absence of faith, something remains, it is something stronger than me, and I do not want to give neego. Everyone needs to believe in something. It's like taking a hostage or a love story without end. Take my "Medicine Cabinets": I brought them out of the hospital and placed in the gallery. There was no medicine there is no more, but nevertheless ... Take a religious symbol: Remove it from the church and set in the gallery. This story is told for millennia. Religion, science, art, we all need a sense of life, to go up in the morning, is not it? There is also a share of sacrilege and irresponsibility.
LF What is your attitude toward money? Your fortune is estimated at 100 million pounds?
JH Yes, probably even more. I generally do not invest. I buy art. Of course, I have an adviser for investments, I buy houses, real estates, a restaurant in Devon, I fininsiruyu creation of works, but mostly I buy art. I had a dream that seemed to me unattainable - have Bacon. I especially love it during the 1950's. And now 3 years, I've been living with his picture. Conversely hang my work, there is the same blue color. All I do say. I think all ideas stolen. Now I equip a large house in the village, I was hanging there all these great works with a shark in an aquarium.
LF On your desk is «Inflatable» Jeff Koons ...
JH I really like Jeff Koons, that is the artist! How do people love it hard, the roof had completely gone, you'd think he was an alien from another planet. I love his work and admire the man. He introduced me to his parents, his family, an impression that he invents himself in your eyes. I do not understand this desire, this whole story in the spirit of Warhol, perhaps he needs to assert itself. His theater is very strange. Koons-man looks fake. Koons, artist completely real.
LF As you start collecting art?
JH At first I did not buy. Among the "Young British Artists" - Sarah Lucas, etc. - We always exchanged works. I was a curator at vystvki Freeze (fair of modern art in London), so I had to exhibit the work of other artists, and I liked it. As soon as I got some money, I began to buy art. Many artists from the Saatchi Gallery, Staynbek, Jeff Wall, Jeff Koons I immediately liked.
LF You bought your work at your former mentor Charles Saatchi. What are your relations with him?
JH I have always had good relations with. He had a decisive influence on my career. He had a large gallery in London. When I got there, I was dazzled by the whiteness of the space, as if I was in the middle of a snowstorm, and I realized that I wanted to show their work here. Prior to British art, Charles Saatchi was tiny, as the gallery on Cork Street. After his appearance in the British art appeared more space, great names, great American artists. The scale has changed. All of creating something like a huge warehouse. Now you can not return to the previous situation. Saatchi Gallery - is another planet, this is my favorite gallery in the world.
LF And this situation has not changed?
JH Charles Saatchi - he is, he buys and then sells. Everyone dreams of an ideal collector. Many people collect my work, but most of the re-sell them, is an investment. Only a few are not part with them - they are real collectors - Eli Broad of Los Angeles, Victor Pischuk in Kiev, Francois Pinault ... I - the only English artist from the collection of these Brody, all other Americans. Each is seeking discounts, saying that the purchase is intended for the museum, but the museum has not yet been established. Charles never said that, it all came up with journalists.
LF Relations between hudozhnikm and collector - love or business?
JH This is a bet on the future. Collector thinks about his death. I think about his death. When François Pinault wanted to get the work already sold to my gallery, I tried to get her back to his project of the museum was not injured. He really lives his project. When the opening ceremony Palatsoo Grassi in Venice, a room devoted to me, struck me as one of the most successful. The second major exhibition on the island Segen (an island on the Seine, a suburb of Paris, where Pinot intended to arrange a museum), after the exhibition Jeff Koons was to be devoted to me. What a pity that the project did not materialize, he was wonderful. What a disappointment for Pinot. But I still hope that he will build somewhere in this great museum.
LF How do you think of the other arts, music, film, literature and etc.?
JH I worked with David Bowie. We met many times. Of course, he's older than me, we have little in common. Initially famous people impressed me. With age, calm down. Now the famous people whom I see, for example - Bono or billiards champion Ronnie O'Sellivan - these are my friends.
LF Where in the art of England appeared "something wild", for example, in music the last example of this - Amy Ueynhauz?
JH It was inside. England survived 2 wars, terrorism is seen, a considerable dose of political cynicism. There are many good things and many bad, perhaps, all this has developed from the British creative possibilities. Perhaps the climate? (laughs). Now England's great. Previously, it was in New York, but all this - just a fashion, right? England - a country of contradictions and conflicts. But I think the ideas are born out of confrontation.
LF Could you live in another place?
JH I have a house in Mexico, on the coast Tihoko ocean for 8 years I spend there 3 months a year, December, January and February. In Mexico, Catholicism is everywhere. I like chaos, rudeness, the presence of violence in this country are an inspiration for me. I do not speak Spanish, I have no talent for languages, I wondered when they speak in English.
LF In England you have a studio and lots of assistants. How much work you create yourself?
JH For 2 years I began to write again. Now this is another form of painting, it is Mr. epohozha on what was done in the studio. After the auction I will stop «Butterfly Paintings» «Spin Paintings», in short, everything except the «Spot Painting». I'll start something new. All this seems to me the works of young artist, I feel more mature.
LF How «Spin Paintings» and «Spot Painting» out of your studio?
JH Maybe 1000 «Spot Painting». The first five I made myself. When I started this series, I thought of it as infinite. I sign all the work, usually on the reverse side. Very rarely on the front, except that the work I really like. There is, perhaps, 300-400 «Spin Paintings», everything - different format. Approximately the same «Butterfly Paintings». I will stop doing all this. Auktsionnyke auctions - a great way to get rid of work. I need to release the head to do something different.
LF What is an artist in your understanding?
JH John Ruskin said that the artist has shown the world the mirror. I have a house on the same wall are Bacon and the TV screen. When I get tired of TV, I look at Bacon. This is a fantastic, hard world, it is not a smiling Mona Lisa, a painting of Bacon should look and see how the human face. Great picture - the one that causes you to come and constant contact, the perception that all the time. It remains a mystery, you get older, you change, your vision of the picture as well. It seems to me a miracle.
LF What artists you admire?
Sutin, Goya, Bacon, Freud - not particularly. The young Scotsman named John Bellamy, John Carreen, who with great virtuosity interprets the old masters. And Uolhol. I adore Bruce Newman, a great American artist, and Chardin for his perfection. Morandi still life. Recently I saw a Vermeer in Amsterdam. "Milkmaid" - a picture of breathtaking beauty, from it comes the incredible atmosphere that can not feel, looking at reproductions in the book.
LF Buy Hirst's work - is to play the game for the initiated. You love a secret?
I love the game and this game is very old - the rate of supply and demand. In the beginning she did not particularly interested, but gradually I liked it, and I was drawn to it. The game should not be more important than art. You can play as long as you want, if you do not sell shit! While the end product is good, you can amuse. If he is bad, the game no more.
LF Who decides?
JH We must believe in what you do, follow your heart, avoid temptations and do not listen to advisers, calling for caution. My responsibility - not sell a single work, which I would not be 100%sure.
LF Vermeer created less than 40 works. You are not afraid saturated market, which has reached gargantuan proportions?
JH From Picasso left 40,000 works. From Warhol from 10 to 20000, from Francis Bacon - 800 paintings. And everybody wants to buy them! Too weak, or conversely, too profuse proposal is killing the market. In a sense, I think that I created 4 major works: «Fly Paintings», Shark, «Diamond Skull». All other things were just for fun, but I still love them.
LF You really sold «Diamond Skull»?
JH I sold 2 /3 of one investment group, and I left a 1-3. It was supposed to buy François Pinault, and I would be very happy to eat it remained in the world of art in the museum, so he does not change its nature. We have an agreement: if during the 8 years they can not sell it privately, «Diamond Skull» will be put up for auction.
LF Why did you call his work "The Golden Calf"? This is a self-portrait?
JH This self-portrait. I like to work with gold, and I came up with this idea of the golden calf. Maybe I'll do another job for my house. I want to join my "cabinet of curiosities" with my collection of modern art. I would like to place them in an old pub, and then saw the estate in Toddingtone, so I joined them. I put Jeff Koons among the curious, and Bacon, and Prince. My little Versailles.
LF What do you think about the exhibition Jeff Koons at Versailles?
It's great, is not it? It is suitable to the site. Sotheby's gave me a Faberge egg, it is so similar to Jeff, this goes beyond kitsch. This is almost a divine act.
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1. For those who really believe that Hurst extravagant, prusutstvuet explanation of his motivation - to violate the rules. Painter, acting according to the rules as a degenerate artist.
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most brilliant reaction of the audience in the gallery, is when he says: "Wow!", That is, when he was taken aback. Art - this is not bad copies pollokovskih spray. Make art - is to confront those who do not believe that what you are doing is art. Confronting a hostile audience.
2. But this is for investors. Butterflies have to buy.
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DH For 2 years I began to write again. Now this is another form of painting, it is Mr. epohozha on what was done in the studio. After the auction I will stop «Butterfly Paintings» «Spin Paintings», in short, everything except the «Spot Painting». I'll start something new. All this seems to me the works of young artist, I feel more mature.
Just the facts:
Hirst himself did not grandfather (and did) also seems ottsentra smeared paint (bank card) works ..
For the year to about the auction, he hired (anonymous-ob.yavlenie was in the "A-N"-Artist News-Journal for artists) 150 assistants (at 8.50 pounds per hour, from 9 to 5-), where they rented for the occasion workshop and made the art (butterflies pasted) is a first-hand.
And the White Cuba (Gallery in London) there are hundreds of his unsold (unclaimed) works ..
(mail to the factory available)
Hurst second year (this is what I know myself "BBC", of course it describe)
in the list of most annoying people of Britain (intellectuals, he acts on the nerves that speaks only about the money ..)
The audience does not know it (oddly enough) and it is generally the first interview. with him, which I came across ..
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For the year to about the auction, he hired (anonymous-ob.yavlenie was in the "A-N"-Artist News-Journal for artists) 150 assistants (at 8.50 pounds per hour, from 9 to 5-), where they rented for the occasion workshop and made the art (butterflies pasted) is a first-hand.
..
Such wise men should be obliged to they fit into those artists in the co-authors.
"Big" is seen at a distance ..
(I no longer trust the BBC as it .. for 5 years only 2 times a glimpse of the news and even in the "annoying people" once a year ...
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I no longer trust the BBC as it .. 5 years only 2 times a glimpse of the news and even in the "annoying people" once a year ...
I already knew ...
But, you know, if you watch programs where women can not break eggs, and Oliver reveals the culinary secrets, you might miss it, no?
I know that there are people who watch only on TV sports. They apparently just about Hirst heard nothing. What do you think?
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I know that there are people who watch only on TV sports. They apparently just about Hirst heard nothing. What do you think?
.. believe it or not, but as it is expressed more precisely, the Russian people (who grew up in the USSR) on the order of more natural .. educated .. INTELLIGENT!
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