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Старый 02.07.2009, 15:26 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1
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In March we had a spontaneous conversation about video-arte. After attending shows and debates X Media forum, held under XXXI MIFF I wanted to return to the topic and then sounded on Fross:
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Not really still understand where are the video-art. Film tells a story photo tools (video-art is a short film?), Cartoons tell the story of pictorial means (video art is a cartoon without a history? "), Commercials and video flash series of products (video-art could make these Commercials not shirpotrebnymi?)

I can not determine the purpose of video art, is it simply in order not to idle blank screen?
It turns out that the question "What is video art?" Remains open so far, even though this art is "about fifty". At the round table on media forum Kirill Razlogov said that the axiomatic definition arise when something is already so firmly established that passed into history. And while the art is going through the stage of formation and development, its definitions are under development. As far as I understood from listening to all the faithful authoritative opinions expressed in the media forum, to date, clearly only the following:
- Video art - this is another form of art (form of expression of artists)
- "Popes" of video art are not cinema and photography, and performance 60-ies and television
- Now in its short history it has already grown to the point where the steel are not as important tools and technologies, as identity itself as art. In this concept every creator and critic of video art puts something of themselves, but all agree, than the product of video art not: He - no narration (not telling the story), and he -- not for promotion (advertising).

I quote an excerpt from an interview taken from Irina Kulik guru of video art at the forum (unfortunately I do not remember the link itself to the internet).
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"Media Forum" in the program of the Moscow Film Festival
Alexander Panov
Irina Kulik
Photo by Valery Ledeneva

For the tenth time in the official program of the Moscow International Film Festival was part of the most extravagant of his project - "Media Forum", traditionally organized by the Center for Culture and Art "MediaArtLab. His slogan - "More than just a cinema ..." Theme - avant-garde kinoeksperimenty, video art, performances with the use of new technologies. Traditionally held an international competition video works, which apply for artists from more than 20 countries. Hits Out of competition this year - the exhibition-installation of the six screens "to the east of the village of Que ..." about the hard life of the Chinese heartland of the famous Shanghai artist Yang Fudonga at the Museum of Architecture and Russia's premier full version of his movie "Seven Intellectuals in Bamboo Forest" at Cinema Center, the world premiere of "drops" (decadent story of a dying cellist, inspired prose of Fyodor Sologub) team of the Nizhny Novgorod "PROVMYZA, represents Russia at the 51 th Venice Biennale, at the Center of Contemporary Culture" Garage "and" Night of festivals "in the cinema" Art ", a" Forum "opened. Retrospective of works from the best international video art festivals lasted from ten in the evening until seven in the morning - and the hall was full to the very end. Marveled at the success of such an elitist, in fact, the arts, we decided to look into the phenomenon of video art, talking with the spiritual leader of the Media Forum, its art director and curator, as well as celebrity guests. As a result, questions have accumulated even more ...
Kirill Razlogov, Cinematography, Director of the Institute for Cultural Research, a program director of the Moscow Film Festival: Definition of video art often depends on the will of the author
- What is video art? A new genre in art?
- Video art - it is not a separate genre, and technology. This is art that uses the film to produce and screen for the demonstration. Now there is also media art, net art. It's all sokupnost Arts, carried by the screen - the film screen, television screen, computer display. And all this is distributed over a variety of genres. In the feature film or a TV movie, too, because there are different genres. But video art - part of the visual arts, which may take any form today and use any technology. Since this is a very lively area and then the classification is not rigid, changeable, contingent. This applies to video art. Examining a given work as a game or a documentary or as a work of video art often depends on the will of the author. I'm not saying that loom ahead of virtual reality, new technologies, the Internet - and here it can get lost in the general classifications. I can tell you one thing: video art comes in contact with film, largely depends on him, but at the same time and he has a strong influence on contemporary cinema. Because the Media Forum "and is included in the official program of our film festival.
Olga Shishko, art historian, curator, director of the Center for Culture and Art MediaArtLab, art director of the Media Forum ": goes out of joint video art and modern art
- And yet again - what is video art? Movies? Modern art? Or something highly specific?
- I have several years of lectures on this subject in various places. And each time, ready for action, ask yourself this very question. What is it - media art, art, new technologies, communicative arts? At the crossroads of contemporary art and new technologies are born innovative things that are in the 60 - 70-ies was strongly influenced by television, but in recent years, affect the cinema. Terminology changes all the time. Video art emerged when artists just picked up the camera, but the founding fathers of this art, such as Nam June Paik, Bruce Nauman, Vito Acconci, in his memoirs wrote that they were immediately stopped perceived as artists. And now again lost joint video art and modern art (although for me it is, without doubt, modern art): videoart a great burden for the cinema, many artists began to participate meaningfully in film festivals. Many people use the aesthetics of cinema, but in a different way - more coded, more intellectual, makes the viewer to think differently.
- There are examples where the artists take off a full-fledged full-length movies, such as Julian Schnabel ...
- Are there examples of when professional filmmakers come to the Venice Biennale, and perfectly exhibited there. So? This movement of contemporary thought, contemporary culture, and where it will lead, I really do not know, given that the film screen and ceases to exist, the reality is virtualized. At the exhibitions of contemporary art emerging interactive installation, where he manages the viewer, as if to withdraw his film. "Media Forum" is simply not enough money to show such works.
YOUNG FUDONG, artist: Video art - an expression of personal experiences
- Why did you call your movie "Seven Intellectuals in Bamboo Forest"?
- This is a very famous Chinese story relating to the III century - then seven very well-known and high-level philosophers and poets of the court away from the hustle, alone in the estate of his friend, poet, musician and a free-thinker, to conduct interviews, engage in music and poetry. These are the people who sought absolute inner freedom, they could, for example, go a long way to visit a friend - and turn around, not reaching the two steps to his door because they knew that their journey has come to pass, regardless of whether achieved whether the purpose of travel. My seven characters - certainly not wise, it is very young people in search of his future, which so far seems very vague.
- What are all the same distinction between video art and cinema, if not essential medium and method of display?
- Video art allows the artist to talk about some of their deeply personal experiences, express their outlook and worldview. Used to produce big movies were very expensive, and therefore video art was mostly shorts, but now have the opportunity to shoot at the numbers and do the job full-length format. For the film-expression of the artist - this is not the main task simply because it is industry, which involved too many people, and it is also designed for mass audience.

In general, I am sure that the video-art - this, of course, something more than just filling the screen. We just watch. Someone watched shows John Fundonga, Jasper and Just Yves Sussman?



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Старый 03.07.2009, 10:38 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2
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In general, I am sure that the video-art - this, of course, something more than just filling the screen. We just watch. Someone watched shows Jana Fundonga, Jasper and Just Yves Sussman?
Thank you very much, I did not see. I am very interested in your impression of their views, please write.



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Старый 03.07.2009, 20:22 Язык оригинала: Русский       #3
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Thank you very much, I did not see. I am very interested in your impression of their views, please write.
It is difficult to describe the experiences of the set that I looked at the Media Forum. Since I am in the process of the accumulation in this area, then all received the impression to me interesting and useful, although I saw things much better. For example, video-art collection of Francois Pinault, has recently shown in the "Garage» (№ 1 for me - Bill Viola). If the video-art pretend to be art, then it is inevitable parallels with historical masterpieces and cultural associations. This is something that appealed to Andrew Kanchalovsky in an interview you posted on the forum a few days ago. The cultural layer is composed of the "eternal" to reflect human existence. These themes - life, death, love, duality of human nature - are actualized artists, including video artists.
Many videoartisty originally were educated painters, so the dialogue with the masters of the past they can not avoid it. For example, Chinese Yang Fudong. In MUAR showed its six-channel video installation "To the east of the village of Que. Endless black and white image of the archaic existence of an abandoned village, where lived his grandmother and grandfather. People are depicted on only two screens, and the remaining four - the life of feral dogs in the vicinity of the village: the lame, half blind animals trying to survive. Flock of dogs - a model of society. I could not tear myself away from the dogs, but people were not interested. Fundonga Institute's teachers were educated in the USSR, so they were strong in critical realism, which took Fundong.
Videos Jasper Just more cinematic, because Education, he directed, and not a painter. His belongings are exploring the theme of Eros (sexy older woman, homosexual couples) at the level of psychology. There is not one of his arms, but facial expressions, movements in the plastic stretchy space and a monochrome sound. And no "poor art", as in Fudonga - on the contrary, aesthetic quality of the picture.
Video Eve Sussman made no impression on me. I think that her attempt to "revive" "Las Meninas" by Velazquez, failed compared with those on a plan of works by Bill Viola. A draft "white on white" for a Russian art expert (well-informed, that is "white box" or Malevich painting Veisberg) can no longer give a fresh impressions. Perhaps for America (and it is - an American), the phrase "white on white" and sounds innovative, but not for Russian.
The main thing is my impression: works of video art - meditative process of comprehension there laid a priori: movies painfully long-drawn, as if they tuned us to forget the mortal vanity and sink into meditation.
In general, Fross, it should look. What really here to talk! I'm something never seen on the forum analysis of works of artists - all simply placing pictures for others to look. Many commercials c Media Forum is on You Tube, but they are of poor quality. Still, if I shake your skeptical of video-art, or even interested in you, then consider their mission accomplished. And soon, perhaps, between us will dialogue and exchange of experiences. And if not, the phrase "no accounting for tastes" too, no one has repealed.



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Still, if I shake your skeptical of video-art, or even interested in you, then consider their mission accomplished. And soon, perhaps, between us will dialogue and exchange of experiences. And if not, the phrase "no accounting for tastes" too, no one has repealed.
I am not skeptical, but there is a desire to understand one thing.
See, there is a "film" is absolutely recognized and respected art form, more than that is the "shorties", please explain why in the art should be "video art"? Maybe there is a theory of video art?



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Still, if I shake your skeptical of video-art, or even interested in you, then consider their mission accomplished. And soon, perhaps, between us will dialogue and exchange of experiences. And if not, the phrase "tastes differ" too, no one has repealed .
Shaken, but until the dialogue I have to catch up and otsmotret even if you have already sampled (all I would have failed to achieve any of that. Thank you.



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shaken, but until the dialogue I have to catch up and otsmotret even if you have already sampled (all I would have failed to achieve any of that. Thank you.
I am also not going to all osilivat. And so polegonku and gradually time permitting. In the autumn will be the 3rd Moscow Biennale Sovrem. Art Society - there should be a lot of video art.

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I am not skeptical, but there is a desire to understand one thing.
See, there is a "film" is absolutely recognized and respected art form, more than that is the "shorties", please explain why in the art should be "video art"? Maybe there is a theory of video art?
About the theory do not know. Incidentally, all three fellow-specialists (Razlogov, cones, Fundong) spoke on the differences and similarities of cinema and video art (see my first message here). More than they, I you can not explain. Fundong as an artist, ie media arts, says plainly what he needs video art).
A Shishko argues that video art - a kind of visual art, alternative cinema - first, the other effects on the audience, and secondly, more innovative (suit of high-tech). And if you're interested in my opinion, the video-art "must be followed, that art has the right to be at every turn: in both form and content, and technology. But other than movie effects of video art, I felt the "his cost" - I would do on TV looked just films video art, if they showed it - such an effect I like, and I usually turn off the TV sound (ie, mainstream does not interest me).



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Munch, I do not exclude the sound, and interesting to me, but it seems that today the video art is not attracted to the place at which it is trying to raise.
This may separate line in the art, but it was too "not significant", and I at all desire can not see what could be the prospects and development.



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Munch, and interesting to me, but it seems that today the video art is not drawn to the place at which it is trying to raise.
Maybe in Russia does not pull, because it's art requires a lot of money. Some strong Russian video artist left for this reason, promotions on television, it is very useful to raise ratings. So Fundong the question "What are the basis for your art, said:" The idea and the money. " And in the West is even drawn.
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This may separate line in art, but it was too "not significant"
I can not agree that this art is too small - a look that now prevails in all competitions and the Biennale of Contemporary Art? Video art, conceptualism (in painting), installation (which is not without video). This means that this art is at the forefront. Then, all of the most important museums of modern art (Tate, MoMa, Beaubourg) has a collection of video art, and those who had been forced to quickly fill the gap. In the Media Forum came the Director of the Madrid Royal Center Sovrem. iskva and told how in 2004-5 they made a great effort from the collections of the classics of video art (everything was already sold out).
So, I'm afraid you underestimate the number of video art.
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and I at all desire can not see what could be the prospects and development.
Why should you prospect? You - the artist, who was wondering whether to do video art? I am from this point of view on the art of looking ... You looked like "Ocean Without Shores" by Bill Viola (the project at the Venice Biennale in 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTakw...eature=related). Well, Lord - any of his movie? And that - you do not like it? In general, thanks for the discussion. I did not have enough to support Vladimir: Vladimir, you are where?



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Dear Munch , very sorry that you can not see the forum is already very , very long time . Thanks to you I began to pay attention to the work of video art . I already wrote on the forum , which I really liked the work adorn the show at the House of Christie Spiridonov held last month .
I finally managed to find out who did this video - a young artist Julia Zasatava .



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