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[Monomach]

Welcome ask for help in the attribution and evaluation of pictures, possibly with the subsequent sale.

Oil on canvas, size 63h50sm, presumably late 18th early 19th century


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Oil on canvas, size 112h81sm


photo 4-5


Thanks in advance for your answers.

[Artoil-A]

Сообщение от Monomach

Hello, please help in the attribution and evaluation of pictures, possibly with the subsequent sale .
Oil on canvas , size 63h50sm , presumably late 18th early 19th century


Thanks in advance for your answers .

A strange combination of " Icon Painting " and non-solid knowledge plast.anatomii and meaningful picture.

[Михалыч]

The normal and quite typical "anatomy" for Malorosskih icons, such as the Uniate.

[redbor]

First, it is a copy of the picture Bartolome Murillo "Grieving Mother of God",
 
if you do not study very Murillo.
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And on the second apostles Peter and John (possibly a number of apostolic Deesis).

Exactly what on the canvas, not written on cardboard?

[prevar]

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[Игорь Гурьев]

Сообщение от redbor; 2839211 "

First , it is a copy of the picture Bartolome Murillo "Grieving Mother of God "
if you do not study very Murillo

Well , it is probably a copy of the mid-19th century, but rather vostrenko made ​​.
And in fact not even a copy , but an independent work "based on" Murillo painting " Our Lady of Sorrow " (as traditionally written , and the Mother of God - this is when about Orthodox icons and Orthodox in general , when Russian ) .
True, and the Virgin - also (the Vladimir Mother of God ) .
That is, " Mother of God " - is closer to folk , spoken .

[Artoil-A]

Сообщение от redbor

 
And on the second apostles Peter and John (possibly a number of apostolic Deesis).

Exactly what on the canvas, not written on cardboard?

Despite the deviations from classical artist is able to create vivid images.
This is a rare ...

[prevar]

Сообщение от redbor

First , it is a copy of the picture Bartolome Murillo "Grieving Mother of God ",
 if you do not study very Murillo . <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
 And on the second apostles Peter and John (possibly a number of apostolic Deesis ) .
Exactly what on the canvas , not written on cardboard ?

Deisis ( from the Greek word "forgiveness , prayer ," sometimes found incorrect form - Russian " Deisus " is the composition of the three ikon.V central icon of Jesus Christ Pantocrator , the left icon of the Virgin was said to him , on the right , John the Baptist, presented in a traditional gesture of prayer заступничества.Первоначально carried on one board , and later appeared Deisis on three separate boards and multipart Deisis . Deisisny rank - number of icons of the iconostasis , which placed Deisis .

[redbor]

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor ; 2841441 "

Well , it is probably a copy of the mid-19th century, but rather vostrenko made ​​.
And in fact not even a copy , but an independent work "based on" Murillo painting " Our Lady of Sorrow " (as traditionally written , and the Mother of God - this is when about Orthodox icons and Orthodox in general

I can not agree with you . Which motives < ! - ~ 9 ~ -> this is a copy , ie, the repetition of an attempt to accurately reproduce the original. You can see and compare how it is managed . <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
 And Our Lady , she is the Mother of God - the Italian la Madonna, and on the Spanish Nuestra Señora.
 "Grieving Mother of God " - this is the Russian translation of the title of this work of Murillo, from the Prado Museum

[Михалыч]

Сообщение от prevar

Deisis ( from the Greek word "forgiveness , prayer ," sometimes found incorrect form - Russian " Deisus " is the composition of the three ikon.V central icon of Jesus Christ Pantocrator , the left icon of the Virgin was said to him , on the right - John Baptist, presented in a traditional gesture of prayer заступничества.Первоначально carried on one board , and later appeared Deisis on three separate boards and multipart Deisis . Deisisny rank - number of icons of the iconostasis , which placed Deisis .

It is not clear that they wanted to express this message ? As well as its prediduschemu in the same subject :

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