Carpet Tapestry

[Илларион2011]

Dear help evaluate danyj Tapestry , a gift to the Prince Repnin - Volkonskaya King Nicholas. , For what that truce. , The carpet was in his estate in Yagotin and after rozkulachivanya was at the cook who served the Prince during his life, he demands the restoration of carpet , and of course photos distorts the paint carpet was probably made ​​to order so as to reverse side is the mark of an Iranian , I read about a similar wall hangings not stigmatized , I will be glad to assess danogo Gobelena.Razmer 2.20 to 2 m Here is a link about

[Wladzislaw]

History amusing, just funny <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

[Илларион2011]

Сообщение от Wladzislaw

amusing story , but funny <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Well, maybe not right that I have written , why funny ? Quite real , the estate had long since been destroyed , and there is in my town, and we have a lot more to dig there after the devastation . , And the person who can confirm this story, the carpet of Repnina estate , dosih alive.

[VeraZili]

Сообщение от Illarion2011

Well, maybe not right that I have written , why is funny ?.

Bizarre because , by definition, Nicholas could not give machine-made rug . Do not royal case .... This work - the usual " philistine " machine-made rug made ​​in the early 20th century, most likely in the factory in Zavidovo . Did these carpets while a huge amount to satisfy the demand of the population not having the money to buy this handmade Oriental rug or tapestry . This is for my time is like for Soviet citizens was Lyuberetskiy carpet factory with its " Russian Beauty" ... if anyone remembers <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
So if you lay the carpet in the estate , it does not as a royal gift.
About the price I can only say that in such a carpet is not worth anything , it 's time to retire ... Are in perfect condition and very sought after is not expensive.

[Илларион2011]

Сообщение от VeraZili

Bizarre Nicholas because , by definition, could not give machine-made rug . Do not royal case .... This work - the usual " philistine " machine-made rug made ​​in the early 20th century, most likely in the factory in Zavidovo . Did these carpets while a huge amount to satisfy the demand of the population not having the money to buy this handmade Oriental rug or tapestry . This is for my time is like for Soviet citizens was Lyuberetskiy carpet factory with its " Russian Beauty" ... if anyone remembers <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
So if you lay the carpet in the estate , it does not as a royal gift.
About the price I can only say that in such a carpet is not worth anything , it 's time to retire ... Are in perfect condition and very sought after is not expensive .

You are wrong it does not mat early 20th century, and it costs too cheaply netak
Here analoghttp ://www.dag-carpets.ru/img/sm/gobilen_19_vek.jpg
Here's another
from this site , and not just http://www.dag-carpets.ru/hand.php?lg=ru&do=antiquary
Owners can write or call to obiih of these analogues are no stamps on my same great Iranian brand, the size of which is within a radius of 60 cm from the Arabic script , and it is said that is not what this
No manufactory Zavidovo , and the story of one mat and the other, and my counterpart emphasizes not the time of the revolution.

[VeraZili]

Thanks for the link ! This site always gives me pleasure in the form of 15 minutes of healthy fun <! - ~ 1 ~ -> That's how it is attributed carpets - just that - then what - that .... The difference between machine made carpets and tapestries like there no one knows. Let me explain the difference here for you. In the photo you can compare real antique tapestry fragment with a machine mat . Tapestry is shown so that you can see and face and underside . The difference , I believe, can be seen immediately .
In the third picture you can see the underside of the machine made ​​carpet the Soviet period by the same technology to your carpet. The identity of the face.
 So it is safe to repeat that your rug - this is not a tapestry and rug handmade and machine made carpets since , by definition, is not appreciated .... continue to repeat what has been said above does not make sense ....

[Илларион2011]

Maybe he did not hand robots, but not quite the 20th century from the Zavidovo, and not cheap. Both in your attribution, and this is confirmed by peers that are available on other similar sites, and the prince Repnina he was imeenno is 100%.
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[redbor]

The fact that this tapestry of machine work - no doubt.
Until 1857 in St. Petersburg St. Petersburg operated tapestry manufactory , founded by Peter the 1 back in 1717.
 All tapestries signed artists. Many are in the Hermitage.
But, in any case, on a normal machine-made tapestry pattern is visible on both sides.

[NatalyCzarnowski]

[QUOTE=Illarion2011 ; 2836021 ] Dear help evaluate danyj Tapestry , a gift to the Prince Repnin - Volkonskaya King Nicholas. , For what that truce. , The carpet was in his estate in Yagotin and after rozkulachivanya was at the cook who served the Prince during his life, he carpet requires restoration , and of course distorts the picture paints a carpet, was probably made ​​to order so as on the reverse side is the mark of an Iranian , I read about a similar wall hangings not stigmatized , I will be glad to assess danogo Gobelena.Razmer 2.20 at 2 pm Here's a link about

[NatalyCzarnowski]

Сообщение от Illarion2011

after rozkulachivanya

It is of course sad, such errors quite simply can not allow for such a cultural forums.
In fact talking about the art, not a cabbage.

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Сообщение от Илларион2011

он не ручной роботы

Мнению уважаемого эксперта по коврам VeraZili лучше доверять, она крупный специалист. Конечно хочется, чтобы царь ноги вытирал, а потом подарил, но увы. Сказочка красивая, но не для этого форума.

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Сообщение от Илларион2011

он не ручной роботы

Мнению уважаемого эксперта по коврам VeraZili лучше доверять, она крупный специалист. Конечно хочется, чтобы царь ноги вытирал, а потом подарил, но увы. Сказочка красивая, но не для этого форума.

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Сообщение от Illarion2011

Maybe he did not hand robots

The opinion of a respected expert VeraZili needed and can be trusted, she is a professional.
Of course you want to just that carpet king wiped his feet, but alas.