From the Life of coin collectors ...

[Pecheneg]

Some of the sketches from the life of coin collectors.

The young collector (MC) - smart, quick movements in the young man, usually in a suit and the shoes polished to a shine. In the restrained and polite conversation, in an emergency breaks to squeal. Having earned the first hundred thousand, buying on credit "Porsche Cayenne". The old collector (SC) has the appearance and disposing an open smile of professional swindler on trust. Equally finds common ground with the oligarchs and the old ladies. After making another million, think about buying a new tire for his "six".

MC deftly uses the sale of two magic phrases, "he bought a ..." and "sell for the same ...". Just sell the coin SC boring, so each transaction is a serious deep-legendirovana. Traditional stories about coins found in my grandmother's trunk, never uses - its history is always multifaceted, with lots of minor details.

MK heard the phrase "out of an old coin collection," falls into a stupor and hypnotized by its unearthly sound, immediately pay the requested amount. With great joy to buy coins with Hutten-Czapski mark for the three prices. Insurance is not just buying old collections on the weight, and Hutten-Czapski coin takes only cheaper than conventional coin - the subject of branding is spoiled.

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MK kind to any directory, and with reverence to its author (even know the first name of another cataloguer). Constantly operates cryptic phrases such as "P1 to Bitkin", "P for Diakov," etc. SC knows by heart catalogs Ilyina Gil-Tolstoy, including lists of typos. When selling is sometimes used to catalog prices Petrov, because they are higher than others. Stores the current directory with inscriptions, never let them not opening, what can be said of the new man, whom he remembers collecting the GDR-native-pfennig?

MK confidently determine any genuine, but non-standard coin as a fake. The supreme proof of the authenticity of the museum said the conclusion. SC to hear that the proposed sale to the "semeynik" is expert advice, refuses to watch it - what crank would think of taking the "paper" on the genuine coin?

MK, found in a thick foreign auktsionnike a suspicious coin immediately shared his discovery of his own kind, by initiating a vigorous debate on its authenticity.
 SC, counted in the same 47 auktsionnike definitely fake coins, betrayed a melancholy reflection on the theme "Where rolls the world?".

MK believes his duty to visit the major auctions, both domestic and foreign. Never mind that can only buy something from which refuse to rest (of the clamped hole in the top lot last know) - the main thing that you can casually drop into conversation "here I am on the Mime ...".
 SC, while the young people fighting for change at the Nicholas Mountain, slowly buying pre-revolutionary collection.

MK, stunned by high passes, trying to sell the coin at auction. Taking the subject of the commission, puts it up for auction, with a clumsy attempt to disperse redeems himself, pays a commission to the buyer and the seller, the money is accountable to the tax authorities and gradually begins to realize that doing something wrong.

SC willingly gives the coin to the Commission (in the hope that they will lose, and therefore, repay), but does not sell through auctions. He's just preparing a "collection" with a perfect through legend and gives it to third parties for cash the next naive auction house.

Virtuoso MC owns the Internet, actively participating in various forums and auctions. SC, deciding to keep pace with the times, the Internet connects, but then porn is not moving.

MK sure can tell from the MS63 MS65, knows how to relate to XF and 1 -, etc. SC, who has been gradually forced to comprehend the meaning of cryptic terms VF and XF, still divides all the coins into two groups: the collection and nekollektsionnye.

MC, whose emergence as a collector's happening in the background of the continuous rise in prices, considers himself a genius dealer: how expensive it may be picked up the coin, some time later it miraculously managed to sell even more. In recent years actively involved in discussions about how to be a recession or not. SC on the probability of collapse does not think: the market always collapses, the only question is how soon it proizoydet.MK distinguishes different degrees of authenticity, allocating the highest - "unconditional" (naturally, in his collection all subjects "definitely true"). SC on issues of authenticity holds three tenets: 1) definitely genuine coins do not exist, 2) definitely fake coins - it is only coins from clay, and 3) if the counterfeit coin can not be distinguished from the present, it can be safely considered as such (but for some reason his collection does not put them).

MK, finding a rare coin, trying to sell it for absurd prices. Ridiculed by all, it gradually reduces the price by giving the subject of buying cheaper and understands that doing something wrong. SC always knows what and to whom to offer at the moment. In rare cases of failure, it automatically raises the price.

MK always gives a coin to those who give more. SK - to whom she will need (as a rule, it is the most and pay - but that's another matter).

MK is trying to assemble a collection by buying coins with the words "not for sale, just for the collection" (especially cynical saying "for the sake of science"). On the proposal to sell more proud refusal to respond, but in need of money quickly "merge" all for one-third the price. SC declares sale of any original coins from his collection for triple the price, knowing that it is always able to compensate the loss.

MK always worn with the "washers" of precious metals, raspirayas from awareness of its steepness. SC, even in everyday life does not use the word "s .. bingo," replacing it with euphemisms. Of course, nothing in public places covered by article 88 of the Criminal Code of the old Soviet Union, with a no.

The main wealth of the MC - a lot of albums, which he takes out all the hiding places. Most backpacks are fearless, full of old worn holder. SC keeps a handwritten list of the contents of the cells with all the bank acquired by overwork (the place under an oak tree, which buried the jar with the s .. is safely forgotten - not to give under any circumstances). In a public place with the album in his hands has not been noticed.

MC attends all domestic auctions (good free admission) and without compunction enough for the button all paying visitors, persistently offering to view the contents of their greasy albums. Insurance rarely falls to the proposal - it usually does so, he begged the buyer to correct it (but, in general, illiquid) coin.

MK loves to stray into the pack, feeling confident, surrounded by their own kind. An outside observer feels loser, heard wafting confusing the word "broke NUM", "Sinkonen rest" and so on SC introvert temperament, to communicate with colleagues most of the time spent on discussion of fishing and football.

MK is very important for the opinions of others, it is painful to just said in his address: "redneck", "loss" and even affectionate, "moron." SC-sufficient and does not require the approval of strangers, Aware of the dog and the caravan.

MC grew up in a space free of dollars, and operates exclusively in rubles. He has several bank cards, maybe even a payment by bank transfer. (!) SK, a survivor of numerous denominations and exchanges (and nazhivshy on them), automatically recalculates any amount in dollars for rubles buying only kolbasu.Molodoy numismatist sometimes comes to the club with a very beautiful girl, who sits 6:00 very tired, very bored vidom.MK wants everyone to see it .... Also he was very willing, to pay for an expensive coin was with her. IC understands that this is a young man trying to reconcile the irreconcilable .... The time will come and he will have to choose (or a girl or a coin), but soon she will make herself a choice (realizing that this handsome young man will soon turn into Victor Mikhailovich, or Yuri Pavlovich of club). Sometimes MC comes to the club with friends who do not have to numismatics relationship. they smell of alcohol, a lot Ponte. gold bracelets on their hands (after the club they go to rest in place.) These friends can easily be distinguished numismatist is very rude, not understanding of hierarchy in numismatics and not seeing the old gentleman, in a modest millionaire .... SC knows to skip to the big leagues will have to abandon your friends, family, wife and children ..... It will be doomed to loneliness. Wife and kids will hate for the fact that all the time, attention, money, weekends, holidays, holidays were spent on a coin. He understands that after death they would be in retaliation to sell the collection as something unnecessary, almost contagious .... Selling the collection will look like cleaning the apartment from the old .... SC is not thinking, "How to Build" collection, and "what to do with the collection to do" .....
MC and SC differ in their psychology. SC was born, grew, developed as a numismatist in the USSR. He understands that this type of activity is better not to shine. All transactions are classified. Maximum secrecy. (This is the philosophy of "Mushroom" .... a mushroom is safe when it is in the shade, covered, it is not noticeable. Output light means death) MC grew up in the era of the Internet, advertising, public auctions. His philosophy of "Apple" Apple needs light, the height of the sun. Only then will it be able to mature .... Therefore, the MC is trying to be mean, he has his own website, blog, a store. In SC only approved contacts. Therefore it is sometimes very lucrative deal between SC and MC can break .. SC seems that the MC pulls him by his actions on the svet.Vytyagivaet a shelter, but it is for "mushroom" is dangerous. He prefers to stay in the shadows and lose benefits ....

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What a nonsense.

[Pecheneg]

Сообщение от Lucy, 2148301

nonsense.

What? ...

[Кирилл Сызранский]

That is , for example, very precise:

My wife and kids will hate for the fact that all the time, attention , money, weekends , holidays , vacations were spent on a coin. He understands that after death they would be in retaliation to sell the collection as something unnecessary , almost contagious . Sale of ... collection will remind cleaning the apartment of the old ...

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Сообщение от Pecheneg; 2148371"

what? ...

Throughout the <! - ~ 1 ~ ->. I can not talk about it for me naslyshke.U numizat spouse , who plays a significant role in shaping numizmatichesskogo market in Moscow .

Сообщение от Kirill Syzran ; 2148391"

wife and kids will hate for the fact that all the time , attention , money, weekends , holidays , vacations were spent on a coin. He understands that after death they would be in retaliation to sell the collection as that something unnecessary , almost contagious .... Selling the collection will look like cleaning the apartment of the old ...

Cyril , what exactly - what nonsense writing to.Dumayu that the heirs will say it was thanks to my wife , not me who collects art as a serious numismatics is a great investment and coins with high grades and good quality are growing steadily in tsene.Monetu ( I'm writing specifically about numismatics and not serious about the stuff they sell at a flea market grandfather ) is easier to sell than the picture , it is easier to store and so forth
I'm just too lazy , to respond to each paragraph of this stupid article.

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Сообщение от Lucy ; 2148861"

Cyril , what exactly - what you write nonsense .

I 'm talking about numismatics , and the fate of the collections of paintings and PDI , and rely on the experience with sostvenny naslednkami .
Perhaps you have not met with , but I - yes , I saw the rapid sale of pictures, for example, the heirs of old collections , gathered the money cut off from family . Old collections , Lucy, not today .

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Сообщение от Pecheneg; 2148151"

young numismatist sometimes comes to the club with a very beautiful girl, who sits 6:00 very tired, bored vidom.MK really wants everyone to see it .... Also, he is keen, so dear to the coin paid for it with her. IC understands that this is a young man trying to reconcile the irreconcilable .... The time will come and he will have to choose (or a girl or a coin), but soon she will make herself a choice (realizing that this handsome young man will soon turn into Victor Mikhailovich, or Yuri Pavlovich of club). Sometimes MC comes to the club with friends who do not have to numismatics relationship. they smell of alcohol, a lot Ponte. gold bracelets on their hands (after the club they go to rest in place.) These friends can easily be distinguished numismatist is very rude, not understanding of hierarchy in numismatics and not seeing the old gentleman, in a modest millionaire

It is generally full of tin.

Сообщение от Pecheneg; 2149101"

You know, Lucy, I am also not the first time in numismatics, and I can say with 60 percent of this is true.

That is 60 percent then is not it?
Collectors can not stand the noise and sueta.Numizmatika-intimna.S this I agree.

Сообщение от Kirill Syzran; 2149041 '

You have not met with, and here I am, yes

Why are met, and I know a lot of examples from the field of painting and DPI.

Сообщение от Kirill Syzran; 2149041"

I'm talking about numismatics, and the fate of the collections of paintings and PDI, and rely on the experience with sostvenny naslednkami.

So what are you talking about painting and PDI-talking you do not write about it ..

[mihailovoh]

Lucy,

On the real losses of up to 50 percent-see.
sale of the collection M Poraya in 2010 (falleristika. .. even more liquidity than numismatics). We must pay tribute Gelos.
the timing and final amount is impressive.

[Pecheneg]

Сообщение от Lucy ; 2148861"

I can not talk about it to my spouse naslyshke.U numizat , which plays an important role in the formation of numizmatichesskogo market in Moscow .

 You know , Lucy , I am also not the first time in numismatics , and I can say with 60 percent of this is true.

Сообщение от Kirill Syzran ; 2149041"

saw the rapid sale of paintings, for example, the heirs of old collections ,

Absolutely right ... a collection of Roman coins, about 2.5 thousand pieces , the son of a deceased collector of Poltava drunk for several days , but man it was collecting about 30 years

[mihailovoh]

"All was confusion in the ...." is about the article.

And if serezno.deystvitelno old collectors can not stand the noise and bustle and to.chto heirs for sales help out and half the cost.