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tulalawyer · 15.06.2012, 11:21

Good time of day, dear forum !
The legacy of the great-grandmother got two pictures . I ask your help in otpredelenii true authorship and the value of these paintings.

A . Ants Vladimir Leonidovich (1861 - 1940). Oil on board, about the size of 108h68 . Signed in the lower right corner, as I understand it , is dated 1915 ( or 18 ?) Year.

Two . Jean-Jacques Henner (1829-1905). Technique and material can not say the picture is closed glass. Size approximately 44h34 .

Who is on them that can tell ? Thanks in advance .

freez · 15.06.2012, 12:13

second picture you will need to be removed from under the glass, as the oil and Henner wrote on paper and on the board, respectively the price a little bit different

tulalawyer · 15.06.2012, 12:16

freez, and about what range for both cases?

freez · 15.06.2012, 14:09

price range for your plan of Henners 2.500 -5.000, its good enough to buy a French auction, a record 18.750 on

Sotheby's in April this year (working 75 x 127 cm) prices in the $.

John Preston · 15.06.2012, 14:44

It is important to who or what exactly is depicted ...
The girl in the interior or on the nature of flowers, of course, will be more expensive, and sometimes an order of magnitude than a portrait of the unknown!

tulalawyer · 15.06.2012, 15:12

Thanks, I'll keep in mind: <! - ~ 1 ~ -> But the first that can be said?

uriart · 15.06.2012, 15:29

tulalawyer, A in the first, we can safely say that the copy of Muravyev.

The Count, though not a professional academies did not finish, but drew better than this picture.

Игорь Гурьев · 15.06.2012, 15:34

On the landscape are funny shadows to the side, completely opposite of where they should go.

That is not the shadow of the trees, and to Derbe, before they are illuminated by the parties.

Kurioz.

A copy does not seem, in my opinion, quite a smear free, unfettered, in general.

tulalawyer · 15.06.2012, 15:35

uriart, hmmm, a copy of the lifetime?
It is unlikely, great-grandmother just in those years and got this picture ..

Тихая Сапа · 15.06.2012, 15:35

Uriarte, I think you're too good think about Muraviev.
He found a fantastic thing for the outrage.
Especially because I find it hard to imagine that someone worthy to copy it.
With all due respect

15.06.2012, 11:21	Язык оригинала: Русский #1
tulalawyer Новичок Регистрация: 11.06.2012 Сообщений: 6 Спасибо: 3 Поблагодарили 1 раз в 1 сообщении Репутация: 2	The legacy inherited two paintings, please help in determining the value of Good time of day, dear forum ! The legacy of the great-grandmother got two pictures . I ask your help in otpredelenii true authorship and the value of these paintings. A . Ants Vladimir Leonidovich (1861 - 1940). Oil on board, about the size of 108h68 . Signed in the lower right corner, as I understand it , is dated 1915 ( or 18 ?) Year. Two . Jean-Jacques Henner (1829-1905). Technique and material can not say the picture is closed glass. Size approximately 44h34 . Who is on them that can tell ? Thanks in advance . Миниатюры

15.06.2012, 15:34	Язык оригинала: Русский #8
Игорь Гурьев Гуру Регистрация: 01.07.2009 Адрес: город П. Сообщений: 4,939 Спасибо: 6,544 Поблагодарили 6,620 раз(а) в 2,829 сообщениях Репутация: 13305	On the landscape are funny shadows to the side, completely opposite of where they should go. That is not the shadow of the trees, and to Derbe, before they are illuminated by the parties. Kurioz. A copy does not seem, in my opinion, quite a smear free, unfettered, in general. Последний раз редактировалось Игорь Гурьев; 15.06.2012 в 18:26.

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tulalawyer Новичок Регистрация: 11.06.2012 Сообщений: 6 Спасибо: 3 Поблагодарили 1 раз в 1 сообщении Репутация: 2	freez, and about what range for both cases?

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15.06.2012, 15:12	Язык оригинала: Русский #6
tulalawyer Новичок Регистрация: 11.06.2012 Сообщений: 6 Спасибо: 3 Поблагодарили 1 раз в 1 сообщении Репутация: 2	Thanks, I'll keep in mind: <! - ~ 1 ~ -> But the first that can be said?

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15.06.2012, 15:35	Язык оригинала: Русский #9
tulalawyer Новичок Регистрация: 11.06.2012 Сообщений: 6 Спасибо: 3 Поблагодарили 1 раз в 1 сообщении Репутация: 2	uriart, hmmm, a copy of the lifetime? It is unlikely, great-grandmother just in those years and got this picture ..

15.06.2012, 15:35	Язык оригинала: Русский #10
Тихая Сапа Бывалый Регистрация: 07.11.2010 Сообщений: 414 Спасибо: 467 Поблагодарили 692 раз(а) в 270 сообщениях Репутация: 1374	Uriarte, I think you're too good think about Muraviev. He found a fantastic thing for the outrage. Especially because I find it hard to imagine that someone worthy to copy it. With all due respect