Portrait of an old man with expert opinion

[lisovsky]

Good day,
Please help determine how the price of a picture and, if possible , to determine who is depicted , whether it be a Chassid ?
Date : 25-50 years of the 19th century, written probably in g.Smela (Ukraine)
Dimensions: 64h40sm + frame
Author : unknown , on the conclusion of expertise - from the circle ( students) Venetsianov .
There is a conclusion of the National Research and Restoration Center ( Kiev, Ukraine) .

[lisovsky]

Expert opinion:

[Marassa]

Сообщение от lisovsky

Can it be a Hasid?

I'm certainly no expert, but this gentleman Hasid like nothing more than to the Zulus.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от lisovsky

may it be a Hasid?

Where is shtrayml?
<! - ~ 1 ~ ->

[lisovsky]

I agree, no shtraymla, and it is a Slavic face, just the previous owner insisted.

What can be said for the price with or without the author seriously?

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от "lisovsky; 2138041 '

What can be said for the price with or without the author seriously?

Now it's just a portrait of the male n /x of the first half of XIX century.

What sort of price?
Will there be willing to buy?
There is - it is possible with these and willing to talk about a certain price.
I think so.

[redbor]

Сообщение от Kirill Syzran

Where shtrayml?

Well, at least a bale, at least.
<! - ~ 1 ~ ->

And what do this dzhetlmena Hasid named?

Сообщение от lisovsky

just the previous owner insisted.

I guess to accelerate sales

[lisovsky]

Сообщение от redbor

And what do this dzhetlmena Hasid named?

was suspected because of the shape beards

[Дилетант]

Сообщение от Marassa; 2138021"

I'm certainly no expert, but this gentleman Hasid like nothing more than to the Zulus.

Yes ... and the proximity to the circle of the author's picture Venetsianov - is unlikely. And time is definitely a need to be clarified. The manner of painting techniques and the most neglyadnym any execution "25 - 50 " years of the XIX century , and there does not smell. Portrait - a good , looks at the old man - very expressive , but the author , I think, the 1850s was just born. Well, I think so. ( And by the Hasidim and the Zulus , I - no expert <! - ~ 1 ~ ->)

[redbor]

Сообщение от dabbler

And the Hasidim and the Zulus to me - not an expert

Yes, easy to distinguish.
Zulu-black, and always in a Hasid cap.
 
If black and wearing a hat - hence the Zulu Hasid.
 
And then neither the one nor the other