Contemporary Art of Ukraine

[Stanislav]

Dear countrymen, read dozens of forum topics, and made for the following conclusions - in Ukraine there are several types of collectors of contemporary art. a) collectors, dealers b) collectors and traders) collectors collectors. This contemporary art of Ukraine is divided into artists grandfathers (Bokshay, Kotzk, Erdelyi, Glushchenko, cones, Stolyarenko), artist-uncle, who in the direction in art nothing to do with thin .- grandfathers did not have (Roitburd, Savadov, Tsagolov, Tistol , Silvashy) and artist-pioneers, which is about to be written in the Komsomol (Kulik, Romanko, Gidora, Priduvalov).
   I propose to discuss the situation in the Ukrainian art market. All that concerns the investment attractiveness and sense of the average collector. Ukraine is happening nechno to say the least strange. Socialist realists, (Bokshay, Kotzk, cones, Glushchenko Erdeli, Yablonskaya go at prices ranging from 30 000 to 100 000 U.S. dollars depending on size, equipment etc.). Pragmatic Ukrainian virtuoso does not want to invest in contemporary art (I'm on Transavantgarde and other phenomena of Ukrainian art). Look at the price on the same Kukryniksy, the Italian conceptualists and figurativistov, which has long been there in zhivih, but work bought the first museums of the world and compare them with prices on the Ukrainian Soviet artists of the same period. Poluchaetsya that a few years, Ukrainian socialist realists catch up on the prices of Monet and Andy Warhol, Van Gogh and Whistler. Do you think that Bokshay (senior), which now sell for 40-70 thousand of e, in 2-4 years will grow at least 50%. Do not be such. Prices at Ukrainian socialist realists have no single financial policy of the explanation in the world of art products of different styles and periods. You'll see a couple of years nobody will be able to sell their Bocsa, Stolyarenko, flowering for the price, which is laid out in its purchase today.
   I want to ask someone what he thinks about investing in Anatolia Krivolapov, Tiberius Silvashy, Vlad Ralko, Alaksandra Roitburd, Oleg Tistol, Arsen Savadov, Roman Zhuk, Peter Lebedinets, Sergei Guy, Basil Tsygalov, Yuri Solomko, Michael Demtsyu, Sergei Savchenko i.t . d). You are interested in this? Or that not landscape and still life, not an investment? Conclusions. Prices on the Ukrainian Socialist Realism Boxed overstatement, say couple trio of rich politicians in one day want to invest in the domestic arts, but had forgotten that Kotsok and Glushchenko at all will not, and that's provoked great excitement inside.

[SAH]

Сообщение от Stanislav

You'll see a couple of years nobody will be able to sell their Bocsa, Stolyarenko, flowering for the price, which is laid out in its purchase today.

How skazat.Stolyarenko, Tsvetkova for me large Ukrainian thin. and also marked on the western auktsionah.Dumayu in price have a chance to stay.

Сообщение от Stanislav

Do you think that Bokshay (senior), which now sell for 40-70 thousand of e, in 2-4 years will grow at least 50%. Do not be such.

As for me, then this price it nemalaya.Hotya saw very beautiful.

[Tana]

Stanislav: Pragmatic Ukrainian virtuoso does not want to invest in contemporary art "
In fact, from 1950 to this day is considered to be contemporary art.
And if the judge of art is not pragmatic, and if he just buys what he likes and he does not want to sell anything, because I do not think that this artdillery bought at such prices.

[SergeSS]

Stanislav on one hand does not know what to invest, and the other abuses the best that has been created in Ukraine for the past 50 years.

[Stanislav]

Сообщение от SergeSS

Stanislav on one hand does not know what to invest, and the other abuses the best that has been created in Ukraine for the past 50 years.

Please pay attention, "I do not scold the best that has been created in Ukraine for the past 50 years," I do not appreciate the artistic value of an artwork, but only want razobratsya in the investment attractiveness of artists in different directions. Who are some monitors history of art festival Art-Kyiv 2006,2007 and 2008?

[Евгений]

Сообщение от Stanislav

A pragmatic Ukrainian virtuoso does not want to invest in contemporary art

And rightly so .. meaning.?

[Stanislav]

Сообщение от Tana

Stanislav: Pragmatic Ukrainian virtuoso does not want to invest in contemporary art "
In fact, from 1950 to this day is considered to be contemporary art.
And if the judge of art is not pragmatic, and if he just buys what he likes and he does not want to sell anything, because I do not think that this artdillery at such prices to buy.

There is no dispute termin "contemporary art" refers to several definitions. This is art created since 1950, the art is born today. There is "contemporary art" and contemporary art - and this is also one of the definitions of the modern. Connoisseurs of art can not be pragmatic, but the art dealer, a merchant of luxury afford can not. But chassto art dealer not yavlyaetsya connoisseur, but should tendentsiyam on the market that's just in Ukraine now, no. Because investing is not always something that will bring him his legitimate 20-40%in blizhaishie line.
    What kasaetsya "what he liked, I would not advise to buy, what to like, taste you know, all different.

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[QUOTE=SAH;165336] How skazat.Stolyarenko, Tsvetkova for me large Ukrainian thin. and also marked on the western auktsionah.Dumayu in price have a chance to stay.

   Stolyarenko and Tsvetkova, whether we like it or not, has long been included in the history of the Ukrainian art of a single period, and say that they rapidly fall prices would be wrong on my part. Nevertheless, there is some scope of the adequacy of the market. Ukrainssky market otlichaetsya from the Western view that it is absolutely not forecasted, the price of Ukrainian art forms are not middle class, and Ukrainian oligarch. Tsvetkova, Stolyarenko, Glushchenko (his work I really like) through the year, 2.3 simply ostanovyatsya and grow more than the speed of light will not. Think of how much work Glushchenkov 60x80 could buy 2-3 years itomu ago, now that would buy it to sell "Grandma dvohkomnatnuyu apartment, which were inherited. It works by contemporary artists, which I mentioned above, so far available, for more or less adequate price.
  Friends, pay attention to several Ukrainian leading galleries, who in addition to domestic market operating in foreign markets. Gallery Shop "," Karas "," I Gallery Gudimova "," Collection "," Botega "and. etc.

[Евгений]

Сообщение от Stanislav

Because investing is not always something that will bring him his legitimate 20-40%in blizhaishie line.

The modern Ukrainian art, certainly not more prineset.Tem the Ukraine, the financial crisis, not to experiments on the promotion, investment in contemporary art.
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From this list, is another matter, there is a sense of investments .. (but not at prices 50 100t.u.e.)
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=845

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Stanislav

But chassto art dealer not yavlyaetsya connoisseur, but should tendentsiyam on the market that's just in Ukraine now, no. Because investing is not always something that will bring him his legitimate 20-40%in blizhaishie line.
What kasaetsya "what he liked, I would not advise to buy, what to like, taste you know, all different.

What you say is largely true in relation to Russia's art market. Especially revealing this year-the first half and second, when one compares the situation in these periods, much can be explained, and draw conclusions for the future. Particularly insightful is probably able to catch and trend.

[Stanislav]

With Russia's art market, a sign is not much. I know that in Russia the art market razvivaetsya where dynamic, and the state went to a meeting this field. Ukrainian as "virtuoso" is often isolated from the alternative media, which is linked to the prices of "art" of other countries. Ukrainians are not what they do not want to buy Roitburd, Silvashy they do not know to whom else can invest except Bocsa. Culprit is not Ukrainian enthusiasm, and otsudstvie large media resource.
  A colleague at the forum said "a sense to invest in contemporary art" - answer - you can visit "Art Manege" in Moscow and ask this question Larry Gogosyanu - he will answer))))