Fyodor Petrovich Tolstoy?

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Ask to speak about the small picture . By signing Count Fyodor Petrovich Tolstoy . Yes, and the manner . On dried leaf (which is a leaf I do not know ) a beautiful watercolor . In two places the leaf lightly come off . Do you think it's now or have reason to doubt it? Dimensions 05.24 x 18.75 cm photos are not the best quality , but many of them . >
Thanks in advance for your professional opinion .

[Acland]

Tolstoy more classical, but it's too Biedermeier, and the very idea - kunstshtyuk some, like souvenirs.

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Сообщение от Acland

Tolstoy, more classical, but it's too Biedermeier, and the very idea - kunstshtyuk some, like souvenirs.

It is not clear.
Take the trouble to translate to "art history" language to Russian public.
And I would like to know your arguments.

Sincerely.

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Blagodaryov, let yourself see what kind of watercolor by F. Tolstoy (and note the signature):

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Blagodaryov, let yourself see what kind of watercolor by F. Tolstoy ( and note the signature ):

Thank you for participating in this thread . These pictures of course I saw in the internet . And a signature "cool " by using various computer programs . And imnno it led me to think that my student's signature , children or something . Is in flux . And the list of school herbarium also suggests that the may is very early work . Sorry for the year have not been delivered . I'm not saying just guessing . But certainly not a souvenir products . Status of paper and even within certain very old .

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Сообщение от Blagodaryov

imnno And it led me to think that my student's signature , children or something .

And you have not had an idea that this is just someone clumsily attempted to sign the picture " by Fyodor Tolstoy ?
Got someone to this figure , that someone found a similar " in an Internet " twisted " by means of various computer programs " podisi and, as I could, signed this sheet . >

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

And you do not see the idea that it's just someone clumsily attempted to sign the picture " by Fyodor Tolstoy ?
Got someone to this figure , that someone found a similar " in an Internet " twisted " by means of various computer programs , " the signature and , as I could, signed this sheet . >

Everything is possible .... Many craftsmen .
However, the color of ink on the signature and the framing page ( double frame ) is identical , as it were burnt brown . I do not know maybe it is just those who were called walnut ink . But it's all from the discharge of assumptions .
Got this picture in a small Antiques in Europe . The seller said that it was them they have a long time. If verbatim : "I was 8 years when he came to the picture was . " No more information on the picture there .

[Acland]

Oreshkova ink over time, only darker and even burn the paper through . Look , if she does not become thinner where written . Sometimes even the place of ink drop - and receive a hole on the paper in the form of letters . Note that the leaf and tropical butterfly . In Russia, the largest butterfly with tails on the wings are only two : Swallowtail and podaliry . There is clearly something southern . So it does not seem to put up your image has been created " in the language native aspens .

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Not a fact .

Indeed Oreshkova inks have a high acidity , burning out over time, the paper , but if the ink is too thick , they may also fade . Burns will remain only in the area zatekov . A really good drawing paper to burn through the last 200 years ... to put it mildly , a very rare case. Often found similar documents in paper thin and very poor storage conditions.

I do not think that in this figure indicated the owner would see your characteristics .

(Although I also think that it's not Tolstoy )

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Thank you for your opinion . What about walnut ink I guess just because of the light brown color in the caption and frame sheet . And as I wrote it the same color . Burning does not exist in one place . Maybe ordinary ink or no ink . " Hard to say .
The first time after purchase really wanted to open the box and see , can on the reverse side there are some inscriptions , but fear that the sheet crumble in the incompetent hands of my curiosity overpowered . Left as is . And yet . Mounting frame ( only three survived ) of copper. On the flip side there is a sticker , or rather was . She was not frustrated , but faded almost completely. Individual traces of inscription in the box remained . Add a photo .