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Old 29-11-2010, 10:59 Original language: Russian        #1
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Dear experts!

Please reply to two questions:
1. This is an icon or not.
2. What kind of character.

Size 31h26.5. Done on thick board (thickness of about 3.5 cm). On the back of the board did not (just a smooth dark surface - and all).
Two assumptions about the character (not mine) - Rev. Nestor Stylites or the Nile.
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Old 30-11-2010, 16:06 Original language: Russian        #2
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1. This is an icon or not.
2. What is this personazh.Dva assumptions about the character (not mine) - Rev. Nestor or Neil Stylites
 Perhaps originally it was an icon. What is depicted Monk-evident.
But, since no two osmnovnyh attribute icons:
 nimbus, ozachayuschego holiness of character and
 inscription of the name persronazha, it is no longer an icon.
  About predpolzheniyah Name: Neil St. Stylites the truth
name is Neal Stolobenskim Stylites and he was not.
  Venerable Nestor the Chronicler Crypt - very similar, most likely he was.
 True prp.Nestora usually draw with a pen in his hand writing. (So approx)
 And then a reader is shown. We need to look and the faces of other saints.
In general, I think, if the icon clear, perhaps to find there the name inscription.
 It seems that here is engaged in restoration, building conservation Burg icons. What would he say?
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redbor, I therefore asked my first question that has not seen the required attributes. Image, in my opinion, is much closer to a portrait than to the canonical icon. And the man in this portrait "live" makes a strong impression - and then remember it all the time. It seemed a sign of excellence. I remember that the Nile Stylite drew Roerich, but could not find a job.
As for the spelling of the name of the holy (Neil Stylites or the Nile Stolobensky), I cite an excerpt from the online magazine "The Insider View":
"..... Lake Seliger is often called the pearl of Russia. But, as we have many believe, Seliger - a pearl shell, the main jewel of which is the monastery Nilova deserts. Linked she named one of the most famous and revered in Russian Orthodoxy saints - Nile Stolobenskogo or Stolbensky. Often referred to him simply - Neil Stylites, because he lived 27 years of his life and died on stolbnom island in the middle of Lake Seliger in a cave, eating "oak vertices, and to finally win his flesh, vow stolpnichestva - torturing myself with the that did not sit down, day or night and even slept "no lying down on the edge, and hung on wooden hooks. He died in 1555. In the 18 century were uncovered his" power ", which in Soviet times were Ostashkov Local History Museum, and in 1995 moved to Epiphany Cathedral Nilova desert. "
It turns out that you can legally use a single name, and more.



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... one of the most famous and revered in Russian Orthodoxy saints - Nile Stolobenskogo or Stolbensky. Often referred to him simply - Neil Stylites, since he lived 27 years of his life and turns out that you can legally use a single name, and more.
what is often called - does not mean it is correct.
 In principle - call it is possible somehow, and the icons differently inscribes.
But, for the name of an Orthodox saint "legal basis" -
then, as his name appears in the Orthodox calendar.
Neal is known to have lived in the cell and not in the pillar and canonized by the Church as a saint, without reference to "Stylites"
 In any case, whether it is a portrait of Reverend Nile Stolobenskogo Seliger,
 or other Monk - can not say for sure yet.
This is most likely someone from the Crypt saint.
They are usually portrayed reading of Scripture ...




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Follow this link interesting article

"Holy faces. The evolution of the image Nilova desert on icons Reverend Nile Stolobenskogo"



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intart1, thank you very much - the article really interesting.
But it seems that they are not relevant to what I showed.
If I understood correctly, a mandatory element of the icon of the Nile Stolobenskogo is the image of the monastery.
And here it is just not.




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And I think that over the book at face there remains a signature?



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