Refusal of a living artist from his work

[nikola]

Сообщение от Zenia

, and that the presence or absence of paper will define the art of it or not?

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I, as it is difficult to understand what the conversation. Well done forgery that even experts can not distinguish. It's good for one masterpiece in the world became more. And if you imagine how many such "masterpieces" 15-17vv.raduyut eyes of the present owner. And there and canvas and composition of the paint, everything speaks of authenticity. How many of these paintings were "licensed" product? Plavnenko vtekli in the market, and with a clear conscience decorate birochkoy with six zeros.
Maybe all the same toe should grow because of the artist's skill, which can be seen.
And what if that uncle was able to repeat the picture, so it was not good.
Hedge their risks in the purchase of paintings can be no certificate, as such diploma spets.obrazovanii. And then how to live without the risk?
And a lot of fun is, if you imagine the texts of art history since the introduction of certificates.

[K-Maler]

Сообщение от dedulya37

Yes, please, please, it will be interesting.

Once I took part in the inventory EI Plehan together with another lady. inventory can do any, it is important that it was kept where it is necessary ... (not a computer). Write by hand, from the same script, 2-3ekz.Vverhu title, date of the name of (your) completely and the word "inventory", ie "inventory of works of such a made-such, it was then. More: in the list put number (1,2, etc.), just write everything, the size (vertical first), Tekhn. if there is a name nekotor.podrobnosti (stain, scratch ..). Further, most importantly, on the reverse side of the work put letter "O", your initials and number work. Here it is the passport of your work. realize why ...

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Сообщение от LCR

Now the people who once bought his work or that he gave them to worry, because firstly, they have no proof of the authenticity of the work,

You can make such an inventory now, on the phone asking those you trust (if the work is far away) place where you have drive letters (for the inventory because it does not matter where the subject now). And in the inventory write, to whom and when sold. This document is stored at home, nobody to show. He can consult in case of forgery, theft and disputes.

[nikola]

Сообщение от K-Maler

You can do this inventory now, on the phone asking those you trust (if the work is far away) place where you have drive letters

Try to restore order, organize legacy need. That many do. Worthy of respect labor dedulya37 devoted his life to works of the father-VF. Stozharov. But there will always be more of fate, confusing, and detective stories.
three examples.
Vladimir Zuev, schedule, he keeps a log of his work. I know there is not no one error in the displacements and the names, sizes and td.Vot a man he is and has always been so.
http://www.vladimirzuev.com/
Sergey Kostylev painter, recently made an exhibition. He sold only the author's always repeating, sold a lot. All first works have survived. It was a thoughtful move, Sergei twenty years decided to do so and vyderzhal.No works that sold hundreds of them!
I drew many hundreds of works, but I do not even have pictures. All works are sold. All, not even find me. After arriving from Chelyuskin 1990, not a female friend from Moscow just bought 36 sheets of "unique" graphics, came three consecutive years. I always has been.
(Take it, do not mind, even make a drawing)
And suddenly on my work appear interested? Russian Museum eventually bought my work.
Advance can say all the work for the systematization of my works in vain.
(In 2008, in the USU, defended a thesis on my work
where 50%is not the truth. ) That such different fates, and always will be.

[dedulya37]

Сообщение от nikola

I was always so.

So start now, at least two, more mature part of your creative work will be stored in documents.
And then people on the forum in the XXII century ofigeyut proving nikola ying is work or not! : p: D: D

[Евгений]

Сообщение от nikola

Maybe all the same toe should grow because of the artist's skill, which can be seen

That problem, pay only for the name .... skill of the artist, few people are interested in a professional art market . The topic you have already discussed a hundred times. (on prices)

[nikola]

Сообщение от Eugene

skill of the artist, few people are interested in a professional art market.

So it turns out that these are two different ogoroda.Mir Art and the Art Market. So after all Pshenichka will know, not because of her hlebushek tasty, but for the fact that vodka intoxication.

[Pavel]

Storm in a teacup! "Weaknesses of the worst enemies of the artist, Matisse. It is for such pictures are judged on the author-what he deserved, and get it.

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Сообщение от Eugene

In this and the problem, pay only for the name .... The mastery of the artist, few people are interested in a professional art rynke.Etu subject with you a hundred times discussed. (On pricing)

Name created by the artist, not the art market. It only seems that anyone can spin. The market will simply cease to trust you.
We must look for artists, not sculpt hunchback of mediocrity.

[nikola]

Сообщение от Pavel

The name is created by the artist, not the art market.

Unfortunately in the world are used to measure the value of money signs.
We must acknowledge that most people begin to look at the picture with great interest, if they find out that it is expensive. In this sense, the art market plays a big role. If the paintings were neither will want them, interest in the art could divide.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Pavel

The name is created by the artist, not the art market. It only seems that anyone can spin.

Agree. Always with irony attitude to the statements of its type-hyped.
If there is nothing like you are "spin"?
Rothko? - "Spin" ...
Malevich? - Rasraskrutili "...
About Chagall even say so!

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

I agree. Always with irony attitude to the statements of its type-hyped.
If there is nothing like you are "spin"?
Rothko? - "Spin" ...
Malevich? - Rasraskrutili "...
About Chagall even says so!

And if we apply the term-opened? Hyped it invested a lot of money in advertising, first obtain the property or obtaining the right to property. Otherwise, simply unscrew the stupid not having run at least twice potsent covering spending in 4. Or related dela.Poskolku question in income then who is to pay. But he also hopes to profit from the next sale and bought it if it does not get it means he had been deceived. On the face of a fraudulent transaction. But if the buyer makes a profit, he will come over to buy himself and with him podet crowd willing to buy and this is an honest business and prestige. In the west, all have already tried this and learned by heart so they say an intelligent person could be fooled only once

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Сообщение от nikola

Unfortunately in the world are used to measure the value of money signs.
We must acknowledge that most people begin to look at the picture with great interest, if they find out that it is expensive. In this sense, the art market plays a big role. If the paintings were neither will want them, interest in the art could divide.

Agree, it would be strange if a work of art stailo a few - all would say that it is bad art-trash, but someone who thought or has bought one for the life of 5, 10 pictures. All thought, and suddenly he is right and rushed to buy, but the things some of the artist is limited and they rachinayut more expensive and it is from the fact that someone opened talent.