"Gelos", antique-auction house

[Люси]

Yes, they do not Bartered .... alas I do not parsed in Tischler, well, once you, too, that what disturbed us is good that I did not do bid .

[U_Z]

Сообщение от Lucy

What is confusing me is that, despite the expertise Silaeva.

I think there is no reason not to trust the expertise of Silaeva (TG), as well as for Tischler he did a sufficient number of conclusions as to Zvereva. It is graphically one of the authorities! What you embarrassed?

[Люси]

Well, I'm not touching the merits of Valeria Silaeva.Vo first I Silaev himself said that his expertise is often potdelyvayut.V principle, one could call Valeria and I think he would have refused to look at pictures Tyshler it or not (to me as it was inconvenient to bother him because of this .. probably not so much wanted to buy) does not confuse me, but a man with whom I consulted (an experienced collector) .. he was confused by several factors, one paper on which the new picture.

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Сообщение от Lucy

he was confused by several factors, one paper on which the new picture.

And the pictures themselves?

[Люси]

And drawings and paper and price-led sea argumentov.Vot and dissuaded me ..

[U_Z]

Сообщение от Lucy

First I Silaev himself said that his expertise is often potdelyvayut. Do not confuse me, but a man with whom I consulted (an experienced collector) .. he was confused by several factors, one paper on which the new picture.

Forging a consultation-examination of the State Tretyakov Gallery (Silaeva) difficult.

Give the following reasons:

Examination format consultations.
On the reverse side of copies of Silaev wrote the text of the attribution of the hand (if you have seen it be emphasized, that the idea of forging underscore just ridiculous .

Attribution is usually attached (receipt voucher, a receipt with the cost of services for attribution, with the signature of the responsible person (it must also forge ) and importantly, the receipt number indicated in pencil in the corner of the original work, and this receipt number clearly recorded in your book. And as all this is fake?

Look at my posts on the B-Birula, I urge to show photo examination, because ...

Сообщение от Lucy

and drawings, and paper and price-led sea argumentov.Vot and dissuaded me ..

Paper.
All depends on storage. Do you have any books /albums on offset paper 1950-60 period - see the flyleaf, for example.

Painting.
Hey, this is the initial sketch for 15 minutes, I think.

Price.
Browse posts by Nate in this section: "artist - 2A, 6500 rub." And here "1A, 18000 rub. - Nabrosochek. Gelos not profitable to take things much. Advantageous to incoming price was the lowest. Here here and pricing! If the price is high - the work simply do not take.

I will try to find out who their rents, as well as for you, look for tampering with the outline, but without examination Silaeva .

[Люси]

Potdelki from these sketches are in the database artinvestmenta.Tak I did not say that this potdelki ... just in my heart of doubt crept in after the sole opinion and it was a decisive argument to me personally not to buy.

[mihailovoh]

Cyril Syzransky,
And as you look at Rerberg with expertise 2500 rubles, MS Malyutin 70 * 90 oil on canvas with expertise 45000 rubley.Ya can not not understand pricing, no selection of objects, inscriptions, on podpisi.po conclusion?, and attributed td.Vpechatlenie that painting and an icon they sell as a commission store.

[spigo]

Сообщение от U_Z

K attribution is usually attached (receipt voucher, a receipt with the cost of services for attribution, with the signature of the responsible person (it must be fake too) and importantly, the receipt number indicated in pencil in the corner of the original work and this issue receipts clearly recorded in your book. And as all this is fake?

Obviously, you do not represent what pishete.S humor you have much better .

Сообщение от U_Z

On the reverse side of copies of Silaev wrote the text of the attribution of the hand

It was in the last millennium.

[U_Z]

Сообщение от mihailovoh

Cyril Syzransky,
And as you look at Rerberg with expertise 2500 rubles, MS Malyutin 70 * 90 oil on canvas with expertise 45000 rubley.Ya can not not understand pricing, no selection of objects, inscriptions, on podpisi.po conclusion?, and attributed td.Vpechatlenie that painting and an icon they sell as a commission store.

Rerber:

I do not want to raise the history of trading, but if I remember correctly, this lot at the first auction of interest is not aroused, and was discounted (this rule is in the auction). Someone wanted and bought for 2500 rubles. This auction!

Pricing:

Gelos not profitable to take things much. Advantageous to entering the maximum price was low, so interest was to bargain. Here here and pricing. Deliverer initial offer price, and he either agrees or not. If the starting price, according to the auction house, is great - the work simply can not take! Here are the citizens agree, and what to do? There are sometimes and end-customers, so the cost rises for the most cap.

Selection of items:

The fact that the yield, divide by value auctions or on time, etc.

Inscriptions on-podpisi.po conclusion?, Attributed etc..:

Someone you would specifically make the attribution, but you at this time will have a rest? Who's supposed to, that attribution does himself! Here was an example, someone wrote on the forum that bought early Veisberg without attribution for a penny, made it and won the outstanding work!

The impression that the painting and an icon they sell as a commission store:

Of course, roughly said, but nearly so. And what's wrong with that. Rapid turnover - all good!

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Сообщение от spigo

Quote:
Note from U_Z
Attribution is usually attached (receipt voucher, a receipt with the cost of services for attribution, with the signature of the responsible person (it must be fake too) and importantly, the receipt number indicated in pencil in the corner of the original work, and this receipt number, obviously, is entered in your book. And how all this fake?

Obviously, you do not represent what pishete.S humor you much better.


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Note from U_Z
On the reverse side of copies of Silaev wrote the text of the attribution of the hand

It was in the last millennium.

You think so? Ok. Tell us a better show for us all, please examination of GTG in the format "consultation" end of the beginning of XX-XXI century.

This examination of Silaeva on his "personal /firm" does not go blank. This examination of the State Tretyakov Gallery, where the force acts as a member of this organization. Time of the examination - the end of the first years of XX-XXI century.

We are waiting!