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Старый 29.09.2010, 04:38 Язык оригинала: Русский       #81
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In the art a little push the idea, it is desirable to translate, so much so that the materialization of the ideas had an equally compelling force, as well as its wording. And then the seams: if we compare the substantive work of artists from 20c. and their theoretical manifestos, the naked eye see great discrepancies.
... I assume that's the magic word after all the "spirit" - although now it is considered to be a pop cultural meme, or cobble cultural imperialism. Of course, it is something subtle - something like the wave function of the "inner tuning fork".
Spirit - the foundation of the artist, just in the European tradition, he pushed.
Van Sentsyan, calligrapher Qi, 5 Century China:
"Secret way of writing is this: the spiritual state - of all curves, the image is visible behind him. It is necessary to make sure that the heart has been forgotten in the hands, arms are forgotten in the letter."

Shen Gua, scholars of the Song 11 in China:
"Subtlety is the art of spiritual comprehension, and it is difficult to achieve by relying only on external images ... This painting is created in the moment when the heart fills will, so that the artist is immersed in the life of the spirit and understands the truth of creative transformation. But this is difficult to speak with someone who is caught up in the mundane banality. Truly it is said, "The ancient artists depict the will instead risvali real objects"

Ninyuan Gu, Ming painter, 1570g, China:
"Of the 6 Laws zhivopisisozvuchie energy - the most important. When there is harmony of energy, then there is a living movement."

To form under these quotes fall and contemporary art, especially Picasso's phrase that he wrote the world as it thinks. But! After the idea-description as follows. The image can create - and can destroy. I think the latter is more characteristic for contemporary art, and also does not require special skills.

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The idea of mnozhestvennnosti parallel worlds of art (with disjoint sets of the works of masters and systems of interpretation of their work) is quite entertaining, but I generally closer to the idea of a multidimensional model of art, where artists and works by comparing all the same possible - because this is one space.
 When people talk about parallelism, I think it's like my own room, and in his kennel, each dog owner. You can track the waves, leaving a work of art that they give a reaction in our common space? What contribution are in the collective unconscious?
As a result, parallel worlds available to us in a common, here they are reduced - or even really want it. After all work has been exhibited in public, and not for contemplation in a secluded sect kvadratistov. They want to join in a common plane and influence. A separation is good for research and /or marketing.

Let the contemporary art began with the idea of revolution, whether to develop something new and creative - is the question.
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Старый 29.09.2010, 12:27 Язык оригинала: Русский       #82
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Let the contemporary art began with the revolution of ideas, whether to develop something new and creative - is the question.

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And why, when the world is approaching self-destruction?

Build, not fashionable, not pokupabelno not konyukturno .. (is not it?)



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100%agree to create new and original because the world does not stand still .. and the evolutionary process moving forward .. and Chinese philosophy is relevant only in the case when a hefty picture of the modern masters of selling a business barter with the south-east Asia



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Старый 29.09.2010, 18:16 Язык оригинала: Русский       #84
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And why, when the world is approaching self-destruction?
Build, not fashionable, not pokupabelno not konyukturno .. (Is not it?)

(Well, you can add what's Kali-Yuga, and now the long wait for the final release ... Let pozozhe the truth, but somehow too sad!)

The whole world craves power, preferably - free then. Few can become sources of new energy, and artists (in a good, creative sense of the word) - one of these in a few.
But! It turns out that the energy released is much easier to fracture. I swear by the atomic bomb. With the destruction of something of a stable mass of energy released. Same - Breaking the psychological pattern. It's easier - in fact much easier to destroy, and therefore destroyed, hence all the exaltation of glamor and foolish cynicism, that they say everything in life is simply bought and stupidly to loot. This figure is growing because of its energetically promoting many of the media, and most importantly it is easy to manage.

Nevertheless, those who feels a creative force, you know what it is and how you can lose everything. Therefore, artists are likely to need a serious upgrade their knowledge. Only then they will have and scrap the idea - and the possibility of a constructive embodiment.

If we recall the main lines of work in the old days - it was a religion (the values of higher level and with a decent PR), archetypal images (such as Venus, without lace), followed by social life + erotica (sold by itself), well, more food, drink, different battles, etc. Today, the religion made room, she no longer meets the real needs, and nothing much to say. Too conservative. Social life and arhetipiku assigned glossy magazines. Food, drink, etc. - advertising.

Artists need to look not only unconsciously wandering ideas are all here too clogged, but new creative images, and desirable - that they have a practical sense. For example ... oh, do not need the same fishing spots give .
 

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100%agree to create new and original because the world does not stand still .. and the evolutionary process moving forward .. and Chinese philosophy is relevant only in the case when a hefty picture of the modern masters of selling a business barter with the south-east Asia
Maybe you just do not know how practical Chinese philosophy. They do the whole philosophy - continuous practice, as opposed to European. Just need to understand it properly. As a guide to action, not words.
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Intriguing you Annamain manner of expression, most likely you sozdovaemye "art of the formula"-the result of hard thinking about the fundamental questions of human existence. But I dare say that your judgments nebessporny and totally convincing, but it is clearly not mistaken the one who is not looking for anything .. but any artist (the one who is independent from politics and finance) should have more trust in their immediate impressions, relying on its own rather than "marketing" perception of life.
 A contemporary art does not need grotesque .. PR Media .. vspomnet whether about him someone in 300 years??
And I know eastern philosophy is very acceptable from Taoism and Confucianism ... until Mao's sayings ..



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Старый 29.09.2010, 19:09 Язык оригинала: Русский       #86
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Intriguing you Annamain manner of expression, most likely you sozdovaemye "art of the formula"-the result of hard thinking about the fundamental questions of human existence. But I dare say that your judgments nebessporny and totally convincing, but it is clearly not mistaken the one who is not looking for anything ..
I do not know were thinking hard or not, but I invested about 20 years on the proceedings with issues considered to be overriding. I can assure you that I did.
The phrase "totally unconvincing" convincing in itself, as the classic formula of understatement - combined with the treatment of "you". The subconscious mind because you do not cancel, is not it? Not be better to turn to an analysis of the merits of adding something of my own?

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as any artist (the one who is independent from politics and finance) should have more trust in their immediate impressions, relying on its own, rather than "marketing" perception of life.
If you think I'm a PR and merketing, as well as trash the product - that's a mistaken impression. So why I am writing in detail about this?
That's because my strategy - not a denial. Enemy must know in person. We need to know its strengths and weaknesses, or lose whoever you was. As an adept of Oriental culture, you'll explain "The Art of War by Sun Tzu.
Do not you know neither yourself nor the enemy - in any case you lose power. Know yourself - you do not know the enemy - you lose half the cases.
You know yourself and know the enemy - always victory will be with you.


According to this formula, I spent time and learned how to work the media, what marketing is and how to do PR.
In addition, you may not notice it: the artists have long been a marketing perception of life, you ought to somehow pay for the paint and the Internet. The problem is that this perception is not cheto system and partial. But it's worth to fix, especially since the laws of marketing and PR, which was not terribly complicated. I swear diploma, quantum physics is more complicated.
Maybe then a different artist will be more chances for promotion. Well, I'm on my own I will be very happy.

 
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A contemporary art does not need a grotesque .. PR media .. vspomnet whether about him someone in 300 years??
Probably not. especially when the sun disappears in 2012 .

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and the eastern philosophy, I know quite acceptable from Taoism and Confucianism ... until Mao's sayings ..
Mao popolzovavshis all the above. Well, once you know, to deny the primacy of spirit is hardly possible. Artist may enter the exalted state spontaneously, even without noticing it - but he is keenly aware of how this is different from any other.
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Yes, you as resident metropolis ... to condemn much easier with financial support ...
And I'm better-Gui Gu Zi ... by comments Tao Huntszina Here you will be helpful to something ...
1) The Art of conversation is this: sometimes otkryvaeshsya to show their agreement with the interlocutor, while other times it zakryvaeshsya to make known to master not agree with someone "
2) The Art of Play assumes that sometimes being disagree with someone, you need to contradict him, and sometimes when the interviewee himself zatrudnyaetsya express their thoughts, to assist his efforts "
3) "Reliance is a cinch, and talk here about the relationship between ruler and poddanym.Vysshy and lower must mutually understand their internal state, then they will be linked inseparably"
4) "to inspire, to obey, - is the art of attracting people to him. First you need to loudly praise the man, and he fully show their feelings and nameriniya.A then depending on his preferences, it should be harnessed and hobble"
5) "Words must match what is actually happening"
6) "The secret correspondence - communicative my intentions with the inner nature of things. The art of these things back to the very foundation of wisdom, so it is called a basic canon"
7) "What raskryvaetsya in the rhizome of the heart, in what order vovne.Potomu and says:" control from within "


And about 2,012 have already been coming and Christ, and another end of the world .. not worth a thing to your art .. .. watching your site to something so energetically promoting soon if all kirdyk



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Thanks for the quote, they are good
And yet, because of the specificity of time, there had in mind a personal conversation. Here - the text. That it was constructive and interlocutors, and to readers, it makes sense to play the game easier .... or not to play.

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And about 2,012 have already been coming and Christ, and another end of the world .. not worth a thing to your art .. .. watching your site to something so energetically promoting soon if all kirdyk
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Do you have an original approach ... and work your Interpretation of the modern approach .. art business is primarily a trade in works of art as not cool ..


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art business is primarily a trade in works of art as not cool ..

Well, unless there argue?
Truly so

It is hoped that contemporary art will not Hoover vacuums in the containers.
With all due respect to the vacuum cleaner.
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