What distinguishes the true artist from not present?

[Buscador]

Сообщение от Mihail

unreal artists in nature does not happen, they are all quite nastoyaschi,

So this is what you want to know how to recognize the principles of this profession. Or artists may apply to all those who picked up the brush and thought that he knows her to do something? So no. There had already been bad - Shilov and Safronov ... They are bad because they do not like. So it's all subjective. For example, I do not like Malevich (do not think it a good artist). Because of this it does not become worse for many participants of this forum. What to do?
Indeed. Perhaps because many believe that the artist - this is not a profession, and the flight of the soul, imagination, thinking ... And the more unusual you think, than your bizarre behavior, so you look like art?
And why the actor - a profession, the director - a profession, a musician, doctor, teacher ...
and the artist - this is only the ability to show their inner world through a variety of subjects?
Do not belittle it is itself the title of artist? Drawing ability is not necessary to know what the track - to whom it should be. Color - and here you can than unusual the better. Indeed, what is that, if everyone can be an artist.

There is of course another question - can there be a trained professional people weak artist? Although this question can find the answer if you answer the question: Is it a profession to be an artist?

[Артём]

If a boxer has fallen in the first round, he was not a boxer? Therapist in a children's clinic is different for the worse on the cardio, it is not a doctor?
A person with knowledge (with the formation or self, etc.), with burning in my heart, devoted his life to art - is an artist! Another question - tastes.

[DSF]

Сообщение от AlexanderG

Ne vizu osoboi problemy. Raboty hvatit na all those feeds from this field.

Your vision AlexanderG, here you are a gallery owner.

Oznakom'te pozaluista.

You really do not know, or just want to I read?
The only objective criterion of any professional is the fact that people are often referred to as vague word - "time". In fact, nothing obscure here. "Time" - is the sum of the views prevailing in the professional community for a certain period of time. And the more this interval, the objective assessment of labor rights. Here are relevant only to the views of professionals. If Renoir called Vermeer's giant, then 100 000 AleksandrovG this assessment will not change. Or how Korovin, wrote: "One angry young man said:" I do not like Titian. " "He has not become worse" - I replied. "
This applies to almost any profession. For example, we have almost every major city in Russia has a hospital named after Pirogov. Who is the cake? Well - the doctor, well - a surgeon. That's all that he knows a simple man. Why his name is given to the hospital? that he committed such? Maybe it's the janitors, the astronauts or artists hurry up? "Come on, say, perpetuating, he said, jaundice invented ... not he? Botkin? But what difference ...»
Opinion dealers, curators, art historians, critics, gallery owners, etc. - again, if not more, because they are too short-lived. The question is: how to evaluate a professional artist or not? My answer is: about the same as estimated professional doctor. Only with the artists easier because the penny-a work of the doctor hides the earth, and the artist's trash is visible for a long time .
And. If I need to be consulted on artbiznesa, I turn to you, and not to the great "Pablo" Tyryshkina. Guess - why?

[AlexanderG]

Сообщение от DSF

You really do not know, or just want to I read?
The only objective criterion of any professional is the fact that people are often referred to as vague word - "time".

Vremia deistvitel'no ochen 'tumanno i ne vsegda ob'ektivno.

In fact, nothing obscure here. "Time" - is the sum of the views prevailing in the professional community for a certain period of time. And the more this interval, the objective assessment of labor rights.

Ne mogu soglasit'sia, u nas uze byla diskussia o perepisyvanii istorii, zamalchivanii ili preuvelichenii faktov.

Here are relevant only to the views of professionals. If Renoir called Vermeer's giant, then 100 000 AleksandrovG this assessment will not change.

Eto esli vy priderzivaetes' mneniia Renuara, ili on iavliaetsia dlia vas avtoritetom. Pravo na nezavisimoe mnenie nikto ne otmenial. A u hudoznikov takie vyskazyvaniia sluchaiutsia chasto.


 Or how Korovin, wrote: "One angry young man said:" I do not like Titian. " "He has not become worse" - I replied. "

Huze ne stal, no i nravitsia ne nachal

This applies to almost any profession. For example, we have almost every major city in Russia has a hospital named after Pirogov. Who is the cake? Well - the doctor, well - a surgeon. That's all that he knows a simple man. Why his name is given to the hospital? that he committed such? Maybe it's the janitors, the astronauts or artists hurry up? "Come on, say, perpetuating, he said, jaundice invented ... not he? Botkin? But what difference ...»

Ne sovsem ponial analogiiu.

Opinion dealers, curators, art historians, critics, gallery owners, etc. - again, if not more, because they are too short-lived.

Tak etoz ih professiia, mneniia vyskazyvat '.

The question is: how to evaluate a professional artist or not? My answer is: about the same as estimated professional doctor.

Kstati, ia sebe etot vopros nikogda ne zadaval.
 
Only with the artists easier because the penny-a work of the doctor hides the earth, and the artist's trash is visible for a long time .
And. If I need to be consulted on artbiznesa, I turn to you, and not to the great "Pablo" Tyryshkina. Guess - why?

Sdelaiu eto s udovol'stviem.

[Buscador]

Сообщение от Artem

If a boxer has fallen in the first round, he was not a boxer?

 I do not understand the analogy ...

Сообщение от Artem

therapist in a children's clinic is different for the worse on the cardio, it is not a doctor?

Here, here ... For you, this is dogma. And for me there. Here, as elsewhere, is important qualification. Heart surgeon - a physician specialization, pediator - a specialist who dolzhet correctly diagnose almost without special equipment. Here at the wrong diagnosis of a heart surgeon may have neponadobitsya ...

Сообщение от Artem

The man with knowledge, (with the formation or self, etc.), with the burning in my heart, devoted his life to art - is an artist! Another question - tastes.

And what about skills? I've been too grief, sorrow, but I can not become an artist. I write, I write, but writers are not raised himself. Rhyme line, but the poet did not. In the life of so many roles, outplayed, and all the actors in the theaters ... What to do?

[kozhinart]

The only objective criterion of any professional is the fact that people are often referred to as vague a word - "time". In fact, nothing obscure here. "Time" - [B]is the sum of the views prevailing in the professional community for a certain period of time.
All this can be called reputatsiey.U My question is: what distinguishes a real critic (art), or a gallery owner or dealer, collector, not of this? Why he came, but because these people affect the formation of the absolute, a true artist - or a surrogate. (From the Latin. Surrogatus-this instead) - Eng. substitute; it. Surrogat. 1. Replacement, possessing only a neck-eq properties of the replaced item. 2. Socialist. role, to-swarm individual who replaces a parent or relative .

[uriart]

When a PI Tchaikovsky said:
Talent - this is hard work! "
And no one has canceled.
So it was, is and will be!
And if the artist collects cigarette butts and puts pill on shelves or feces rolls in cans, I would not call him an artist.
How do you want another word, no not that.
And if such an artist from the word "evil" really want to be called just the word "artist", so it is pure thievery.
Of course, the artist should be professional in their field.
And if he did not was because of some events or other reasons, but his talent he says of himself, he still did not go unnoticed.
"The beauty can not hide!
Beauty - a terrible force! " Ha!
F. Ranevskaya
A real or not real - only time will put everything in its place!
And we can argue further, it is still to agree never arrive.

We must turn to history.
In the Middle Ages, when the shops were professionals, like you think you would use in his shop these "artists" these artists?
And.
This artist, again this is subjective, that was the artist, whose fame and popularity does not disappear over time.
He will be talking and all future generations to admire!

But not real artists are those who forget, as the song one day.

[Артём]

Сообщение от Buscador

And what about skills? I've been too grief, sorrow

You do not notice that I wrote about education as an integral part?
 "How is a true artist from not present?" I think that the word "real" incorrect in relation to the artist, the wrong word. I answered above, this question!

[Buscador]

Сообщение от Artem

I think that the word "real" incorrect in relation to the artist, the word

I think that this word simply underlines the high degree of professionalism.
After all, when they say - yes, he was a real teacher (sportsmenom. ..), imply that a man gave himself entirely to this cause and had a valid authority of a professional. Present, there is a view isninny.

[AlexanderG]

Mozem ispol'zovat 'analogiiu: "Povest' o nastoiaschem cheloveke"

Ostal'nye ze toze real'nye, no povest 'o niom - o nastoiaschem