What distinguishes the true artist from not present?

[iside]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

there the sand is the last on my list is mandatory for viewing

Cyril Syzransky, "And if you were offered a lifetime to explore and describe the" creative "artist Kulik or live in the Bahamas and possibly become the new Hemingway, that you have chosen?

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от iside

And if you were offered a lifetime to explore and describe the "creative" artist Kulik or live in the Bahamas and possibly become the new Hemingway, that you have chosen?

I even strain on such "choice" will not. There are reasons in such fantasies are not "fly", namely:
1. No I will not make such proposals. And this is gud.
No one will give us deliverance, neither God nor the king and not a hero ... (c)
2. In order to become "the new Hemingway, one of white sand, the Bahamas is not enough. must have at least many, many daiquiri ...

[Peter]

Сообщение от LCR

The talent is immeasurable, and for me the only criterion - my taste, my dear Alexander (this is why I said that art - not a commodity in the ordinary ponimanmm of the word).

How deep does the concept of "real artist", and so little trudnoizmerimo.Prosto professionalism, we need more talent, a talent test, personal taste, is too subjective (Shilov and Safronov did jobs as a true artist, but I for example of Malevich's not very much, that he Now is not the real one?) Time-objective measure? And how many of these artists have sunk and oblivion, they are no one will know, and how much work daily modestly now. We are trying to measure the immeasurable.

[DSF]

Originally Posted by AlexandrG:
Nazovite kriterii izmereniia talanta. Bezumno liubopytno.

You ask whether there is an objective criterion by which to distinguish the real painting, this artist? Of course, there, and he is known for a long time ago and is used in almost all spheres of human activity. Just ask yourself, do we need this test is in art? Imagine what appeared a certain "talantomer. Then from your 250000 artists in the AU are excluded not 90%, and 99.9%. And what to do with all this mob? And what to do with all the dealers, gallery owners, critics, curators, etc., all those feeds from this field? Inventor "talantomera inevitably awaiting the sad end ." So let the art remains a mystery, in that it charms.

[AlexanderG]

Сообщение от iside

AlexanderG said that for him a true artist and Shilov Safronov.

Po sravneniiu s Kulikom.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Once remembered ... arrival of Dr. Grigoryev, who waved in greeting a new hat ..." JACARU " from specially of leather ...

Kirill, vy znali !

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Predlagaiu eschio bol'she suzit 'krug diskussii.

Davaite vydelim hudoznikov /zivopistsev v otdel'nuiu kategoriiu i ne budem ih smeshivat 's fotografami, aktual'nymi artistami, performace artists itd.

Eto razdelenie pomozet dal'neishemu vedeniiu diskussii. Uprostit.

[AlexanderG]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Once remembered ... arrival of Dr. Grigoryev, who waved in greeting a new hat ..." JACARU " from specially of leather ...

Kirill, vy znali !

[AlexanderG]

Сообщение от DSF

You ask whether there is an objective criterion by which to distinguish the real painting, this artist? Of course, there, and he is known for a long time ago and is used in almost all spheres of human activity.

Oznakom'te pozaluista.

Just ask yourself, do we need this test is in art? Imagine what appeared a certain "talantomer. Then from your 250000 artists in the AU are excluded not 90%, and 99.9%.

Eto ne tak uz ploho.

 And what to do with all this mob? And what to do with all the dealers, gallery owners, critics, curators, etc., all those feeds from this field? Inventor "talantomera inevitably awaiting the sad end ." So let the art remains a mystery, this is his charm.

Ne sovsem uveren v etom.

V Au 500 kommercheskih galerei.

Pust 'kazdaia galereia predstavliaet 15 hudoznikov (ia lichno ne smog by rabotat' s 15, slishkom mnogo).

Eto znachit, chto 7500 tysiach hudoznikov byli by v aktivnoi rabote.

Ne tak uz ploho dlia strany s naseleniem 22 milliona.

Plius hudozniki vseh preznih pokolenii.

A auktsiony rabotaiut s nebol'shim spiskom reguliarnyh imion, okolo 200.

Ne vizu osoboi problemy. Raboty hvatit na all those feeds from the field.

Added after 28 minutes
Predlagaiu eschio bol'she suzit 'krug diskussii.

Davaite vydelim hudoznikov /zivopistsev v otdel'nuiu kategoriiu i ne budem ih smeshivat 's fotografami, aktual'nymi artistami, performace artists itd.

Eto razdelenie pomozet dal'neishemu vedeniiu diskussii. Uprostit.

[Buscador]

Сообщение от LCR

as it turns out, gravity is not enough, we need more talent

And how do we measure the product of this? And who will do it? There is also some kind of scale is needed - this talented, but not 100, and he, too, but not as much as ... The question then stood on the criteria for a true artist (I realized as a profession, not attitude). Because the criteria for talent is not present, another person's attitude does not appreciate it ... So we can only talk about the professional qualities.
Artist - excellent draws, gramatno works with color and assembles ...
A woofing people or collecting cigarette butts in large vats and tablets are placed on the shelves, I think anything that can not (or very skilled at hiding it )

[AlexanderG]

Сообщение от Buscador

And how do we measure this product?

Ia ze pisal ran'she - talantomerom

A woofing people or collecting cigarette butts in large vats and tablets are placed on the shelves, I think anything that can not (or very skilled at hiding it )

O!!! Polnost'iu soglasen.

[Mihail]

It was like in the movie: The king! Not true!
Friends, unreal artists in nature does not happen, they are all quite nastoyaschi, only one less gifted, others more gifted third, fourth, and so brilliant Can gifted bark, as Kulik, and you can write mediocre as Shilov ........