So does the modern artist to be able to draw?

[Veronic]

Сообщение от kozhinart

You have just created a new concept, but may not be new, but only sniff and listen to these sounds are not for the weak mind ...

so this concept to develop ....
because if you follow the logic, the smell of perfume is naphthalene memories.
rather conceptual art amaze us the smell of carrion, there are other opinions ?....

[Jasmin]

Сообщение от uriart

Jasmin, rather smell of money from the works of art?

At this answer: Ha-ha !!!!: D: D: D

[Seriy]

And why such a hatred for the concept?

[Veronic]

Сообщение от Seriy

and why such a hatred for the concept?

Hatred is not perfect, even more can tell you is born from the concept of modern design, but it is gud.

[Wladzislaw]

Сообщение от Seriy

funny to read about the Soviet Union, no one could speak a foreign language, even if you have 5 in the certificate. Is that dipvuzah or language. A gentlemen in the 19 century, a man spoke and wrote in French, or German, or English, to bear witness.

One Russian Russian nobleman in childhood did not know Russian, and wrote novels in English, another Russian nobleman wore a red shirt and wrote that the Russian is nothing but Russian is not necessary. Which of these examples reprezantativen? ... I suspect that no.

And why do you think the average high-school education in RI is better than the average secondary education in the USSR? People do not have landed from Mars to these territories since 1917.

[Seriy]

Сообщение от Wladzislaw

And why do you think the average high-school education in RI is better than the average secondary education in the USSR? People do not have landed from Mars to these territories since 1917.

Teachers otsadili. Or arrested.
And I think I did that for a long time in the Soviet Union there was the notion of-spec, r's or a nobleman, or unreliable elements who received education in tsarist Russia, which would like to prishlepnut, but you can not. Tolerated because the education of their, Soviet, specialists have been worse.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Wladzislaw

A Russian Russian nobleman in childhood did not know Russian, and wrote novels in English

A little bit wrong.
So go to summer 1905: a mother with three children in
Petersburg estate; political affairs of his father's delay in
capital. In one short of their raids to us, in Võru, he
noticed that my brother and I read and write in English perfectly,
but the Russian alphabet do not know (remember, except for words such as
"Cocoa", I did in Russian could not read). It was agreed that
Rural teacher will come for us to give daily lessons and
led us to walk. (c)

Сообщение от Wladzislaw

another Russian nobleman wore a red shirt and wrote that the Russian is nothing but Russian is not necessary.

But the speaker did.
One of his famous novel begins with the text in French. : D

[Buscador]

Сообщение от Seriy

education in tsarist Russia, which would like to prishlepnut

Сообщение от Wladzislaw

A Russian Russian nobleman in childhood did not know Russian, and wrote novels in English, another Russian nobleman wore a red shirt and wrote that the Russian is nothing but Russian is not necessary.

And what we have a theme? Education in Russia and the Soviet empire? ...

[смолин]

Сообщение от Allena

Only good when those involved are people (with a capital letter) as Spivakov. And if, God forbid, ambitious parents in their Chad spark noticed that the child can only regret. Everyone remembers what they had finished geeks, of whom at one time television ballot. Maybe a year ago about a film they showed a great documentary - a nightmare, I know it.

Kissin - serves the same Spivakov. Polina Ossetian - World
star, among the top ten pianists of her generation.
What they finished?
As parents, without his father would not be Pauline Pauline
Ossetian.

[Евгений]

Сообщение от Admin

Osyuda question. Who is producing our art colleges? The second question to ask I will not, even though he begs.
"Kitty, I have long wanted to ask you as an artist, an artist: you know how to draw?" (c) I. Ilf, Petrov

Alexander, perhaps the art-managers (generalist).
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From the article Mary Chegodaeva "Young Artists ......."
"..... The third way - the most seductive and most insidious - the so-called. "Actual art." His determined we have such names as Kulik, group "Blue Noses"
Osmolovskii, Ter-Oganyan, Marat Gelman ideologues, Erofeev, Sviblova etc.

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For all the seemingly formal differences, "aktualschiki" united in one thing: they think it possible to declare a "fine art" anything: any object, remake, action ( "action") and photos of "shares", video, computer file, and finally, the complete absence of anything (empty album pages, etc.) The product as such, does not matter - it is important to verbal interpretation, "mesedzh (message), which the artist himself or his speech-writer "- the art place! viewer. Young avtorsha presented at the Moscow "Biennale" Velcro from adhering to them dead flies. Well-known radio commentator Yakov Krotov declared this "project" a symbol of impermanence vsegs world, equal to the wisdom of Ecclesiastes.

"Mesedzh" substitute for the product - that his verbal explanation, perception, sensation - the ideologists of "modern art" proclaim the modern art, though completely removes and replaces paintings, graphics, sculpture. "Traditional" art, that is, in fact, they contemptuously art enroll in "marginal", "outdated," write off "the ship of modernity" as not worthy of any exhibition in the museum's Department of Modern Art, no broad funding, no representation at international biennials.

"Actual art and fine art in fact, completely different types of activities requiring different orientation of the mind and, consequently, different forms of learning. It is obvious that "contemporary art" does not need such qualities as talent, vocation, the human capacity for artistic creativity. You do not need any professional skill, and, respectively, and the professional art education. So no need to spend years mastering the figure painting, perspective, anatomy, technology, etc. - should be developed in a very different quality: the ability to think up something "stunning", something that even before the "me" no one tried to think and interested in their "project" curators "image makers" that it "will announce the art" sponsors who will fund it, managers, auctioneers, which drive up its sales price. This way offend the opportunity to break into the world art market, to gain world fame. Which young artist does not want to pass for new, modern, good! The danger is that the artist is completely dependent on supervisors, managers, art historians: it can be added to the list of "topical", "roll out" and sell for big money, but may in fact and delete "from the list, which means for Artist total catastrophe. End. Nothingness. Velcro with dead flies, if the "ideologues" do not declare their "art", not proclaim the "impermanence of all earthly things, equal to the wisdom of Ecclesiastes," and are just Velcro from railway station buffet, filth, which, used, thrown in the trash. That will happen and the project author »..."
Full article here:
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/blog.php?b=575
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Maria Chegodaeva
Born 19.01.1931 in Moscow.
Lives and works in Moscow.
Art historian and art critic. In 1956 she graduated from Moscow State Art Institute. VISurikova.
Author of books on contemporary artists: "Vladimir Minaev" (Moscow, 1975), "Benjamin Basov (Moscow, 1983)," Book Arts of the USSR "in 2 vols (Moscow, 1983)," Ways and outcomes " (Moscow, 1989), "Kitsch, kitsch, kitsch" (Moscow, 1990), "Alexei Shmarinov" (Moscow, 1992), "Art, which was" (Moscow, 1997), "Dementiy A. Shmarinov" (Moscow, 1997), "Gregory Benetsionovich Inger. My Childhood" (Moscow, 1997).
Corresponding Member of the Russia Academy of Arts (1997). Candidate of Art (1986).
Member of the Russia Academy of Arts (2001).
Member of the Presidium of the Russia Academy of Arts (2005).
Doctor of Art (2005). http://www.rah.ru/content/ru/main_me...12-11-22-17-18