Art as a commodity: Paradoxes and patterns

[Buscador]

Сообщение от Artoil-A; 2749791 "

Maybe in the province and went to museums and then copied in Moscow with postcards and reproductions

Hrchetsya tell you that in all art schools was given time to work in museums. In Moscow, too , and even more so.

Сообщение от Artoil-A; 2749791 "

By the way , many titled artists could then sell .

We titulovannosti artists was necessarily state contract that pays decent money.

Сообщение от Artoil-A; 2749791 "

Sometimes, artists, gallery owners give apprentices copy successful work done in a simplified technique .. It is natural to sell lots .

About what you say in a gallery owner " Soviet times "?

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от Buscador; 2749721 "

The quality of the product is very important. Here is a small example . Most of Ukrainian authors unknown in Russia. Therefore, the selection of works primarily look at the quality as author on the market is unknown. This will determine the price . On the " new market " in the first place there is the quality of the ...

You mean sovriska or about painting ? <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Buscador; 2749871 "

I titulovannosti artists were necessarily state contract that pays good money .

Mikhail Romm recalls Arcadia Plastova speech at a meeting of Khrushchev and the creative intelligentsia :

Says he, as illustrated Assumption . Come on guys hay sketch , sketches make the mowers . Well, he does all of these sketches , and then in the afternoon they had gathered , watching pictures, said to him: " Tell me, how much do you pay for it ? "

- I hate to say it , it w Stalin's time . Of course , the time was difficult , but I will say it bluntly: paid well . Frankly, Nikita Khrushchev , it was hard , but the pay , paid too ! (Plateau , between us, a lot).

Here's one , and asks, " Well, then the five - pay ? " Another says : " Well, yes, it will be for the five Chick , probably ten ! " And I was paid five apiece. I said, "Lift up " - " Really a quarter ? " I was ashamed , I said, " The quarter ". - "Well , look , well done! We need much namahatsya to quarter - then work out ! Perhaps a couple of months to wave ».

[Seriy]

iosif, what you write, publish , for the CIS is unique , do not stop ... and it is doubly valuable, what is written is not just a professor , and on the battlefield, so to speak, in the thick of battle.
 IMHO, the future is not the way to sell a collector A. No one painting , and five B artist , but for the fact that buying a painting brought new layers of consumers.
Again, IMHO , the artists in the CIS bit behind the modern consumer , it is necessary to catch up .

[Buscador]

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

You mean sovriska or about painting?

We interpret for painting ...

[iosif]

Seriy, I also think that the main thing - the growth of the market, and then all will suffice.
It is only necessary to remember that such a "frontal" marketing does not apply (or how little is applicable) for antiques, conceptual art and creativity is successful (with numerous open sale mi) authors.

[Artoil-A]

Сообщение от Buscador

Hrchetsya tell you that in all art schools was given time to work in museums. In Moscow, too , and even more so.

We titulovannosti artists was necessarily state contract that pays decent money.

About what you say in a gallery owner " Soviet times "?

Well , of course, in 1988-91 , the state . orders are not plundered , especially government order was significant at the time of hyperinflation (a little later).
Yes, and salons are often unable to compete with the market for artists from the rubble dirty daub their exposures.
  Gallery owners ( legal and illegal ) saddled immediately free the art market . Sam worked on them .
Museum technicians (students ) were on opening days and could not sell anything (the design of their work is out of date ), other than that, you do not know that there was a practice of appending the special works of students of experts ( secret ) as a result , many simply do not know how to daub except ..

[Buscador]

Сообщение от Artoil-A; 2750091 "

Museum geeks (the students ) were on opening days and could not sell anything (the design of their work is out of date ), other than that, you do not know that there was a practice of appending works of students by special experts ( secret ) as a result , many simply do not know how to daub except ..

Apparently , I do not know ... and secret Masons do not know ...

[Artoil-A]

Сообщение от Buscador

Apparently , I do not know ... and secret Masons do not know ...

Familiar with. Just do not map the obvious .
For example, who writes for the majors ?
How much time the student engaged in painting relative to the other classes ?
And subtract from this time period on laying open on a palette and paints on a palette cleansing .
As a result , students do not appreciate varzakane no commission from the supervising authorities. But the commission has a method - append operation. Usually it makes laboratory of painting ...
In addition there is the practice of taking the university has trained people . As a result of their learning and especially not necessary - the very go ...
A field of training ? I have seen how the student was trying to sell a copy of the opening day with a picture of a woman's head Surikov ... It just does not ponder what really sold on her eyes with her disease and how it should be done ...
And in the market and work at least 8 hours daily. Work on used technology subjects spent copying the designs of artistic goods. Result - beginners are sold on the first day of exposure. If the apprentice negligent , then it is sent out. The streets are wide - all dunce will ...
Just a different purpose - in training and market earnings.

[Buscador]

Сообщение от Artoil-A

Just do not map the obvious.

No!
Simplicity is what you write - incredible.
To my understanding ...