Socialist realism - this is our antiques

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Mercy > So the fact of the matter is that if there was a real interest in the "social realism" of such artists as original Golobkov would know EVERYTHING. How to know about the most impoverished immigrants and nonconformist. Somehow know - you can see the links to the web, all the references, etc. Here - the silence.

There are a number of names (already mentioned), but the real deep interest in the direction of not. Sorry or not - is another matter. Just a fact.

This is a question to the market only to persons involved in it.

Well it's the usual story: if it were brought to the city - it's something in all the stores, but something else - search, find, and FIG.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

I'd rather be typing on the keyboard with errors than smack like crap:

Syzran, I somehow wife said that if I wrote with "redneck"-mistakes - she would not marry me out >

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It is a pity that the buyers Basquiat, Voula, Hearst and other "britarta" Prince, Koons, Murakami, Brown Grotyana, Naumann, Richter did not know about it, and their multi-million bid on the lots with the works of these authors break records.
Yes, do not know, but I think, after a "candle" Richter before the crisis in February 2008, bought for $ 16 million, the second of his "candle" would not have bought in October 2011 already over 16.48 million .
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I was just about the Russian market we lead, so it is not crap, but stubborn fact, because the secondary-ustarvshee as they like us to throw off the advanced countries.

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Well it's the usual story: if it were brought to the city - it's something in all the stores, but something else - search, find, and FIG.

So clear why "imported into the city," which sold well, and the "other" is simply not necessary.


Demand is still before the market anyway

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I was just about the Russian market we lead, so it is not crap, but a stubborn fact.

Come on, tell me about domestic Contemporary, which ruhnolo the Russian market, and bring these " hard facts ".
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Сообщение от IV

So see why "are imported into the city," which sold well, and the "other" is simply not necessary.

No, just a problem - fill a niche. Who segment of the market more - in fact, and more profit.

Сообщение от I-V

Demand is still before the market, anyway

Not always.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

Well, well, tell me about domestic Contemporary, which ruhnolo in the Russian market, and bring these " hard facts ". >

Already cited. Closing galleries and trade Vrubel facebook. Two of these just terrible indicator.

And you know, are going to deny this fact? Not interested. Clearly, all the falls. And it would be strange if the Contemporary grew in spite of, but generally interesting predictions. Would it be possible to sell the collection, for example, Markina a profit in 20 years, or not.

Here, for example, is:

Alexey Shulgin

Born in 1963 in Moscow. In 1986 he graduated from the Moscow State Institute of Steel and Alloys. Since 1982 began to engage in creative photography. Working as a photographer for the design institute "Giproneftespetsmontazh" fingering production archive 1950-60's, has selected and prepared the project - "Aliens of Photography" (1987). Photos from the project "Aliens photos" repeatedly exhibited and published.

    I got the idea of ​​the series ["Aliens photos"], in which I assign authorship of anonymous photographs. Thus, I could once again take place as a photographer (never schelknuvshy gate) after I have seen the death of photography. I wanted to put these pictures in an art context - to participate in exhibitions, export them to foreign galleries ... When finally, the series has been recognized, I finally realized that the photo - not the author's art. In the world there are so many cameras, and masterpieces are involuntary, just by chance towards the lens in one direction or another.

We ought to look at this thing. Here is

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And what does

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Kontemporari collapsed.

has to

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closing galleries and trade Vrubel facebook .

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Some galleries have closed , so what? Some are closed, other otkyvayutsya . That Gelman on the same " Vinzvode " opened a new gallery in the week .
Aidan Salakhova going to focus on his own work and teaching - on-site gallery " Aidan" it will open a studio and showroom with both his work and the things their students.
And Selina his gallery XL turn into a curatorial project , apparently.

You write about the prices as " Contemporary collapsed " in the money , that it will be " stubborn facts ".
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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

You write about the prices as " Contemporary collapsed " in the money , that it will be " stubborn facts ".
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You also have access to the AI, compare the prices of Vrubel, sold in FB , and the results of auction sales counterparts. No, this is of course only Vrubel , you say ....

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Markin's collection and now you can sell at a profit.
But the collection Ananiev , I'm afraid not. Not now, not in 20 years .

Yes , I would have bought Markinskuyu better (maybe , if these 2 options to choose) , but I saw only the ground floor !

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compare prices of Vrubel, sold in FB, and the results of auction sales counterparts.

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What is an "analog"?
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Sale of works by Vrubel on FB - it's a project, there is no question of any money.
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1.
What is an "analog"?
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Sale of works by Vrubel on FB - it's a project, there is no question of any money.
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In my speech, is money.
Though perhaps it is a project.
Not undertake to deny.
Sleep is not a dream any more than a dream is a dream.

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I was just about the Russian market we lead

And what is a " Russian market "?
Why Russian art-investor limit Russian market?
He Mauger invest in Western, for example, painting, and painting those who left once Russian authors.
Nobody zatavlyaet buy sketches Plastov (all pictures are already or in museums or in private collections) or the most successful things Pimenov.
Pebble on Sovkome, Shishkin or Gelos its lots large enough.
He can buy, such as a relatively inexpensive European art (top authors with record goings will not take) any of the Cobra, for example, and a) enjoy the beautiful paintings and c) each year to add to its price how tens of thousands of dollars (if not hundreds >).
What social realism as increases in price? Unless mentioned here Pimenov Deineko, Nalbandian or Gerasimov can be investionnoy attractiveness compared with Jorn, Appel, Corneille, Aleshin or poet and painter Lyusebertom?
Speaking of Cobra:
Belgium gave Moscow "Rape of Europa" Strebel, now that his sculpture is installed in the fountain in the square in front of the Kiev railway station in September was 10 years her there "presence." >

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

What is a " Russian market "?
Why Russian art- investor limit Russian market?
He Mauger invest in Western, for example , painting, and painting those who left once Russian authors.

Is not limited, but eats .
I just did not understand: what for (sorry) Russian investor to invest in Western painting ? That's it, invest. No , I understand, for fun, and more money is not lost. But to invest so ? Calculate the steam - consider how many tens and hundreds were added to the price ? No, I do not understand this logic. Dealer is concerned , yes, but the " investor "?

Nedviga , technology, Treasure sorts of derivative - I understand , but what about investments in painting - no. However, it has already been discussed .