Found in an abandoned Parisian apartment painting sold for 2.1 million euros - Страница 7 - Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство

Тютчев · 12.10.2010, 00:38

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Yes, it does not last. Still have Zatska, for example. There are also embodied nice to someone sensible ideals.

What ideals? Where do you see them? Likely to please the tastes of customers and portrayed, he himself is not aware of dissecting the essence of the model. Some of the portraits, even evil. So true they discover what is trying to hide a woman, for pomp and luxury dresses. How do women themselves serve in these portraits? A dog ?!...

It is not my artist, but his art has something ...

Сима · 12.10.2010, 01:44

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that tries to hide a woman, for pomp and luxury dresses

"Well, really, what? In my opinion, nothing particularly secret. There are no special secrets.

But after your words remembered my grandfather, Freud, indeed, something forbidden and frightening is in these images as they submit an artist. They repel and attract. The viewer is experiencing long-repressed attraction - it is a specific therapy. There is just you mentioned, Chekhov, and remember - that's really it just was the best therapist for over a hundred years, people fill the theaters to watch the life of neurotics and released from the chimeras.

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A dog ?!...

Tiutchev, and that dog? Also hide something behind the luxury

Dogs, I do not know how to interpret in the light of Freud, then get lost, we must admit honestly. But even Hegel believed that "everything real is rational, therefore, in doggy has its own meaning.

Тютчев · 12.10.2010, 01:57

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"Well, really, what? In my opinion, nothing particularly secret. There are no special secrets.

I do not write about women in general. I was referring to the images created by Giovanni Baldini.

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But after your words remembered my grandfather, Freud, indeed, something forbidden and frightening is in these images as they submit an artist. They repel and attract. The viewer is experiencing long-repressed attraction - it is a specific therapy. There is just you mentioned, Chekhov, and remember - that's really it just was the best therapist for over a hundred years, people fill the theaters to watch the life of neurotics and released from the chimeras.

You all understand correctly. Freud and Baldini were contemporaries, incidentally. You still Visconti and his "Leopard" and remember. Is not it blends?

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Tiutchev, and that dog? Also hide something behind the luxury

Dogs, I do not know how to interpret in the light of Freud, then get lost, we must admit honestly. But even Hegel believed that "everything real is rational, therefore, in doggy has its own meaning.

Meaning there is! Here, the embodiment of selfishness, loneliness and spiritual emptiness. Bred specifically for the joy of being. Living accessories.
In 18 th century, the symbol of sensuality.

Сима · 12.10.2010, 02:35

Tiutchev, of course, I also only about them, women Boldini, as you provide them.

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It is not my artist, [COLOR=Red"]but in his art has something ...[/COLOR]

It would be strange to stop, saying only "something". Why? Above is what I thought. When analiziruesh structure of perception, lost his real integrity. We have to separate the aesthetic aspect (above and I talked about the "taste") of the psychic. In the case of Boldini your aesthetic locators anything you do not pass - you said yourself that it's not your artist. Then, in what area is hidden is "something"? If we understand this, then it becomes clear why pay for it 2 million, and why the weak salon Boldini is a great investment.

Seriy · 12.10.2010, 08:08

Seema, Boldini not weak. I am here the more I look, the more like it. How it works with whitewash! Whitewash-poison painting, as many believe, and he makes all the whitewash! I now can not recall another artist, SO owning white. Luster, texture, space, all alone whiting, surprisingly ...

SAH · 12.10.2010, 10:22

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Then, in what area is hidden is" something "?
If we understand this, then it becomes clear why pay for it 2 million, and why the weak salon Boldini is a great investment.

For me the answer here

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showpo...1&postcount=52

Кирилл Сызранский · 12.10.2010, 10:39

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How does it work with a whitewash!

But how? For example, I know nothing about "working with whitewash," and nothing I do not understand, apparently.
Consider painting without the ability to work with some colors.
______________
But in fact me your message about working with whitewash recalled a phrase from Chekhov's notebooks: "and walked every day, and chew, but still grew useless people".
One would like to start it with the words "And whitewash possessed amazing" ...

Yurko · 12.10.2010, 10:46

Whiting, the topic is very primichatelnaya as the play of light on the way ladies, distinguished texture and perspective image in the portrait of a realistic nature of the main task of the artist to convey outputting not only the similarity to a real person, but also select it against the general background (plot), and that see-emphasize individual features clothing, face hands.
Features of the original speed, and skill there is <!--~ 1 "-" not bad enough yet ...

fabosch · 12.10.2010, 10:53

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If we understand this, then it becomes clear why pay for it 2 million, and why the weak salon Boldini is a great investment.

Seema, and you may ask, why pay millions for Makovsky or Semiradsky. If there is an answer to the question why the Russian pay for Makovsky Semiradsky and then you get the answer to why the French (Italians, Spaniards, etc.) pay for Boldini. Here the difference is only in the different direction of development of public taste

NATA NOVA · 12.10.2010, 10:54

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Sima, Boldini not weak. I am here the more I look, the more like it. How it works with whitewash! Whitewash-poison painting, as many believe, and he makes all the whitewash!

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If we understand this, then it becomes clear why pay for it 2 million, and why the weak salon Boldini is a great investment.

Baldini as an artist in general (in ability) is not weak, the business that just this "slack" and dictated by the needs of contemporary salon painting, or rather, what made it successful in the environment of those behind it was able to pay (so that perky and Lovely). In the main salon pictures Boldini is fast (really fast, because the results proven particularly thinking is not observed) nabrosochnogo nature (and therefore maintain the momentum and the freshness of the stroke, and how would one go nezamusolennoe overall impression of light painting )
Of abilities that cocoa buyers like, because once these qualities attract ..(?)...

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If we understand this, then it becomes clear why pay for it 2 million, and why the weak salon Boldini is a great investment.

In short, probably because he found his "formula" (upeha)
Why it came to mind Kate Medvedev. (Which is also found, or rather did not change "their formula" - for over 30 years of studying creativity can be on academic samotuzhki learn, but that comfort zone, a terrible power!
Were (found) his jet-and that's why it is valued, is another question!

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