Russian art market for contemporary art in terms of marketing

[iosif]

Do not need the state to help.
Need not to interfere with <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

A State is obliged to help the sick and infirm.
Others should do to cope.
Or change professions.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от iosif

A State is obliged to help the sick and infirm.

Artists whose works nobody buys, and there is "feeble".

[Seriy]

Сообщение от iosif

do not need the state to help. Need not to interfere with <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
A State is obliged to help the sick and infirm . Others should do to cope . Or change professions .

  It is a moot question. So now here and there put up a picture of the Soviet period of public funds . This is good or bad ? I mean the existence of funds procurement.
 At the dawn of Soviet power the state has purchased works of Russian avant-garde and guided them in the museums of the province. Bad again ?
 In Europe , the development of the art market which we envy , state support is present in different forms . For example, artists in Ireland to 40 thousand euros a year do not pay income tax. Bad again ?

[K-Maler]

Сообщение от iosif; 2932711"

You do not need the state to help. Need not to interfere
A State is obliged to help the sick and infirm . Others should do to cope . Or change professions .

Somehow here all accuse the artists say, your pictures are not good enough , but it would have to buy everything at once , and the market would have moved ...
And would not you like to think about how much goes on exhibitions connoisseurs who really understand that what is good and bad .
I participated in one big exhibition ( where people come to "all" ) . Introduced several masterpieces of one of the deceased artist and rare poster. Another two artists also presented work is not weak . We have invested , participation was not cheap. But we just wanted to make this experience . Who goes to such pathetic exhibitions, whether visitors have no bias and search for something ? Such was the message of ... And what happened? Yes, this week found two people ... And not on the opening day ( when again the same " come all " ) , and then the visitor has attracted some ...

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Grigory

Again , twenty-five ...
Paul , in less than five years on the forum, you did not understand where we are selling pictures? ? ?
Why ? Most likely because you read on the forum only their entries , it seems to me ...
You grieve me ... <! - ~ 2 ~ ->

Yes I know where it is sold , but make a fool out there, and there's an even worse mess that hang near the reluctance. And so I bought .

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

Some believe that the state should help the artist , because the market is not conducive to creating highly artistic works .
But that's not the market or the state, and in the artist !
Artworks created in spite of the market, in spite of the system , because the artistic act is a revolution , and every artist - revolutionary !

We still have to understand where revolutionary and where bullshit and judging by your gallery you do not understand.

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Сообщение от Seriy

This is a controversial question. So now here and there put up a picture of the Soviet period of public funds . This is good or bad ? I mean the existence of funds procurement.
 At the dawn of Soviet power the state has purchased works of Russian avant-garde and guided them in the museums of the province. Bad again ?
 In Europe , the development of the art market which we envy , state support is present in different forms . For example, artists in Ireland to 40 thousand euros a year do not pay income tax. Bad again ?

Works of the Soviet period has long been bought and only now prices are rising . This has long been a classic.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

Artists whose works nobody buys, and there is "feeble".

It happens that those that buy nemoschnye.
You art dealer and adviser on antiques, should know how to bullshit vtyuhivat.

[Peter]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

I iosif and there sale work of contemporary artists , which, of course , can be called by the word "market" , but it will not be related to the notion of " art market " .
Turnover ( including informal) Russian antiques and art market is 80-100 million per year .

extend Temko . Auctions of contemporary artists we like that .. at least not prizhilis.Tem modern picture somehow ( maybe someone good) exist. Their sales statistics I probably missed something , but can not be carried out such as statistika.Togda we can talk about a certain market size, there is a good term , I will always love - trade .. Who knows , tell what trade the products of modern hudozhnikov.To that there are " market" in a single gallery we see as correctly noted by the COP. And if you withdraw from the auction sales of Soviet artists, what's left ... for Russian paintings were written after 1991 .

[Seriy]

Peter, why not accustomed?
auctions more, they trade more often.

Is that it is not easy, it is difficult and in the West, this is a PR, when a couple of auction houses shows how they are all well, slowly closing the unprofitable offices.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Seriy; 2922261"

auctions more , they trade more often .

This public auction more?
And as they " sell more "? <! - ~ 7 ~ ->
Scoop naprmer spent this year five (5) auctions:
Number 134 on April 4 ;
Number 135 on May 23 ;
Number 136 on October 24 ;
Number 137 on November 21 and
Number 138 - online auction " Christmas Sale " on December 10.

Leonid Shishkin Gallery held this year three (3) of the auction :
February 10 , March 17 and June 19.



Russian and Soviet art
Auction catalog online

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Russian and Soviet art
Auction catalog online

Sold 37 of 91

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[Seriy]

Well, you look where the light , and not where it is. Held a mass of new auctions, they are not as large as Vladya but they arise. FB I regularly see listings , such as auctions related to Northwind Gallery in St. Petersburg. Auctions for AI also appeared in this year, or you have them focus not see? And such undertakings , namely undertakings , quite a lot to talk about trends .

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Seriy

It takes a lot of new auctions

Well, tell me, give links to these auctions conducted " is not where light ".

Сообщение от Seriy

auctions related to Northwind Gallery in St. Petersburg

Times.

Сообщение от Seriy

Auctions on AI

Two.


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