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Старый 17.08.2012, 18:40 Язык оригинала: Русский       #51
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The same text printed in the old spelling and present, make a different impression ... And because of what, it's hard to say ... operates ...
I will try to highlight, that it is valid.
For example, in the text are the words: "the wind rustles the branches." Today, another variant spelling is not. Feel supposedly on their context, in the literal or figurative sense, "the wind rustles the branches."
If at the same spelling and "wind" and "branches" were written by "yat", then reading it would be a clue - I understand in a figurative sense: "God knows how to fly." The letter "yat" encoded natural principle of "Poetry", that is, the principle of concentration of information. And in this text, "the wind rustles the branches," only the image, rather than a description of windy weather. The letter "yat" set up a reader to "Aesopian language."
In the same spirit we can consider the difference between the perception of words by writing "n" or "psycho." The letter "n" refers to the natural principle of "Measure, Measure," and the letter "psi" - the principle of "Education."

The art form I talk about this in his essay. On the principles encoded the letters "yat" and "psi", is written in the essay "La Boheme" and "Images of the alphabet"



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Differences influence the subconscious letters " n" and "psi " appropriate poskazana article L.V.Savelevoy " sacred meaning of the Slavic alphabet ":
" Dog pokoem write (R ), not psyami (Ψ), some communication with the dog psalm ?"
Like me, Savelyev sensed that Constantine the Philosopher ( in monasticism Cyril) gave the names of the letters to hint at their meaning, but in the centuries-old tradition of hermeneutics completely holistic sacred knowledge is not revealed . Most likely , the information about the alphabet , alphabet letters and names to be available, but only able to accept overseas philosophical doctrine.

More fully on the latest appeal to the doctrine of Cyril and Methodius can be found in the essay " PS " , posted on my blog under " end ... "



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Старый 20.08.2012, 16:02 Язык оригинала: Русский       #53
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Did not. But I had to.

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in the "Images of the alphabet" I'm about thinking it meaning, which, apart from the words of the letters can be expressed in images (images).
Hopefully, after the discussion will understanding.
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Let kos_no_yazychno but mysticism still breaks into reality. One-touch, but still present in the minds of the mystical.
Sorry, but the mystic will not tear or breaks. In every sense of the word, it already belongs to the sphere of reality.
"Mystical present in the minds"? Consciousness entirely "mystical" as "reality."

While you are doing an arbitrary decomposition of words in the linguistic and semantic games, useful for the development of creative thinking - it's okay.
But as soon as you charge for "scientific" research, you should not arbitrarily use the concepts, the tools of theoretical thinking. From abuse they spoil.

The problem is that you took up the theme, which is not ready. Talk to you about a secret language, mentality and human history is difficult: You do not hear the caller but engage explaining simple things and editing logic in your text does not have an incentive and time. Do not be surprised reaction:
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I, honestly, how to catch, that you ignore the material, as it were, the basis of language and rush to the area of ​​the transcendent, then cooled boiling disturbed his mind. Your sympathy impulse possible, but do not expect understanding.
Yes, you did open - but it is your personal discovery, personal steps on the path of understanding the wide world of language and culture.
When you share your thoughts, questions and doubts in a sincere effort to find clues to the mysteries of reality - it can cause people compassion, desire to help or join the search. But when you process your self sought to give the character of universally valid "scientific and mystical" breakthrough - it makes anyone laugh who irritation.
Do you have a poetic imagination, but - unfortunately for you - it often overwhelms your mind. Such things do not always end in a harmless way.

Let me give you advice. Change (temporarily ) at the coat gown guru student. Pause the scientific work. Try to fill up and organize their knowledge in the field of linguistics, etymology, ethnography, philosophy, history, religion, psychology, they are random and patchy unacceptable for a person who undertakes to disclose the secrets of language and thought, and to teach others. These days it is not difficult and does not take a lot of time: 5-30 years of hard work will be enough to start with.)

Art - an excellent way to communicate: it can share with others the joy of feeling inexhaustible and ambiguity of the world. There is no need to dive into the search in the modern Russian prints codes encrypted hypothetical Wisdom of Neanderthals or extraterrestrials in phonemes and morphemes eventually erased languages ​​so you will always decode what they themselves and encoding, projecting their own unconscious to arbitrary text. It is better to refer to the art directly: write poetry, talk about the picture.




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I did not want.
And all this is poured out from the mouth of the theorist of surrealism! Art-Lover, you do not see of what philosophers teach Quote!

Art-Lover, I speak only to you. You judge according to toggle from the dress and carefully pretending that you know something about me. But it is not. I'm better than you are familiar with reflections Florensky Debolski, Losev, Young, Vernadsky ... Averintsev, Nalimov, Swiecicki, Ichasa ... and, bearing in contrast to you more and Technical Education, translating consideration the language of "commensurate-incommensurate" which, apparently, is not available to you. In this language, it is necessary to distinguish, as the chemists say, the connection from the elements and to know the properties of both. To talk about the mystical experience of the Nazarene in this perspective, it is useful to see in the continuous system of discrete elements. But now is not it.

As their response to your ridiculous attempt to discredit me and my vision as an educated person like intellectual beating I will for you a few quotes.
- "The main condition of understanding the laws of the whole mosaic picture of the world and the Basic Law of Development of the Earth is the awareness of the need to take the consent of the patient, not the rejection of the diversity of the physical and spiritual, that is speculative, ideas, images and metaphors as the integrity of comprehensive coverage that exists and potentiality Mira. Dividing people immensity Mira, particularly in physics and metaphysics, which are composed of visible and invisible to the human phenomena, it is conditional. D.D.Debolsky writes in "To the knowledge of the Absolute", this division is called the system of old religious and philosophical thought south-east and central Asia, the opposite of "vidya" and "avidya." Especially gifted people are able to ignore speculative "visible shadow" hidden phenomena, and, suspecting the existence of the unknown and to report it to others. then becomes a chance to transform the common efforts "avidya" through declassification properties material world and translate nov from unreality to reality. So were the humanity optics, electricity, telephony and television, nuclear energy, ways to overcome gravity and more. Pledge of each undertaking in the discoveries and inventions was an agreement to listen and desire to understand. Pride debater makes it is unable to see and understand the meanings that come upon other people. "Immodesty man - so named Nietzsche main obstacle to the knowledge of Mira - where he does not see sense, he denies it!" We should not criticize this or that judgment, and to think the reasons for their occurrence. Initiates revered sage advice Spinoza and followed him: "Do not deride, not to cry and not to hate, but to understand."
- "Strange, inexplicable and incomprehensible - not a reason to ignore the information. This is clearly aware of famous psychologist and philosopher of the twentieth century, Carl Gustav Jung. Deserves the utmost respect of his philosophical candor, when he read the" I Ching "- the Chinese Book of Changes, as in confession stated in the preface to the German translation of his attitude strange "game" of modern man with the wisdom of the ancestors: "I must admit that writing this foreword without much pleasure, because, being a man, a sense of responsibility to science, not my habit to say that -or, what I can not prove, or at least be willing to <...>. I got into this, because I think that the ancient Chinese way of thinking comprises more than the naked eye can see ... "
- "The belief that the absurdity sometimes hides a truth that can not be expressed, for whatever reasons, in the form of a simple trust openly popularized M.Meterlink:" Our love for the teachers of the ordinary mind - Kant, Spinoza, Schopenhauer, and some other - no reason - he wrote in his book "Treasure of the Humble" - to deny teachers a reason, just as brotherly, which, perhaps, is destined to be the mind of the future. In the meantime, the future they informed us that it was necessary for us. "Like a model of complete trust relationship was said M.Meterlinka B.Rassela to obscure his originality of thought L.Vitgenshteyna. As a true advocate of progress, Russell realized that all the silence and persecution sources thoughts hinder detection of Truth, and consequently of the event. "
"For more convincing, add the opinion of such an authoritative duo as Goethe and Boris Pasternak. Knowing the price of each born of thought and every word spoken, they tragedy" Faust "replica" I love the antics and machinations. //What is that stupid, more serious "talent is put into the mouth of God Proteus, mark, that this Divine revelation goes unnoticed by people."

Art-Lover, I would not blame you for alchemical symbols baggage accumulated by mankind, but know this: Your "Let me give you advice," sounds like "Let your mouth shut."
Not pretty, art lover, not pretty!



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you will ever decode what they themselves and encoding, projecting their own unconscious by n
 
In today's culture all the more noticeable appeal to the same layers already created and accumulated - there are all sorts of remakes, interpretation. just repetition and imitation, including new interpretations of established and views ... etc. ... Perhaps this is due to the crisis, not only in what is called culture, but, in general, with the crisis in public relations ...
All around was no longer hold all ...
A potential of culture, by and large, a huge ... Perhaps now we will witness the revision of all, the art of it is already happening quite clear ...
In other areas, especially the academic, where the "Aristotelian" logic, and all agreed on the criteria more difficult to come to an understanding ... there is very understanding - the subject of philosophical discussion ... appeared, and with him is not all clear ...
The one offered by Magnolia, like hermeneutic interpretation ... She takes a bunch of culture, including not linguistics, but as a phenomenon of human speech ....
The question is not weak ... Only humans larynx is designed so that it can talk. There is no other such (and therefore can not find the "link"), even among similar animals ... This is surprising and suggests an "idealistic" thoughts ...
Just Magnolia is not writing in an academic format. But recall Jacob Boehme and Swedenborg ... They have a lot of culture, outside of this format.
Where is the place in our wonderful world of technicality?
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I know you better than with reflections Florensky Debolski, Losev, Young, Vernadsky ... Averintsev, Nalimov, Swiecicki, Ichasa ...
Who are these people? (a)



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Just Magnolia is not writing in an academic format.
In an academic format written basic work "Evolution of Right" with a lot of work to lit.ssylok experts in linguistics, etymology, philosophy, history, religion and psychology. Such work is not for the Internet, and certainly not for the forum. Members, I have already said that for normal communication I write an essay in which the material is presented in the form of work of art. Unfortunately, lecturers type art-lover do not understand such simple things. Art-lover - a good example is not an intelligent intellectual. The difference between intellect and intelligence I showed in the essay "Intel ...", the very first of the placed in my diary.
Also, I confess that I came to the forum for finding images, confirming my thoughts on the principles of life. The first finds already. Of these, perhaps the most valuable, I have seen the topic of surrealism. This is a painting by René Magritte's "happy giver" (entry number 18). New posts writes: "From the inside out or outside-in?" Clarity ... in a dream. ... night sky of your consciousness, sleeping 'I'. ... no obstacles hinder inner vision. "Let me add: the same image, Magritte shows that it sees nighttime consciousness. And it sees that the diameter and circumference of incommensurability rests on commensurability blocks of the universe. This is the ratio (more on interaction) curvature and straightness , the nature of co-existence of matter and space. In his work, I have devoted an entire chapter to the topic with the section "continuous-discrete geometry." It says nothing about the letters in the alphabet and the alphabet, but the controversy Mendeleev with contemporaries of matter and space . But understanding such as Art-lover is not available. Suppose giving lectures and photo reports from exhibitions. He is good at it. And the soul of asylum should not climb!

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Who are these people?
I respond to questions like: "this is Google." However, I will say, "Who are all these people."
They are those who wonder about the world order, the nature and causes of such phenomena as consciousness (including the processes of the unconscious to consciousness), faith and its relation to mysticism, the truth and the ways of expression, the symbolism of mythology and so on. In short, it is an ascetic in the sense that I showed in a diary entry titled "The Essence of austerity."
I could fill this list with hundreds of names, of which Art-lover never heard loud applause from students and members of the forum.
For you, Cyril, here are a few lit.ssylok only those books in Russian, that they were in the main references of work. Everything volume considered writings of the question.
5. Andrew White. On the meaning of knowledge. //Andrew White. Poetry words. On the meaning of knowledge. - Chicago: 1965.
8. A. Bergson, Creative Evolution. - Moscow: Canon Press, Kuchkovo field, 1998. - 384 p.
16. Mikhail Botvinnik Where have gone primer. - Mn.: Higher School, 1983. - 198 p.
19. Buslovich DS, Persianova OM, Rummel EB Mythological, literary and historical themes in painting, sculpture and tapestries Hermitage. 2nd edition. - Leningrad: Aurora, 1971. - 288 p., Ill.
20. Butkevich OV Beauty. /Nature. Essence. Forms /- L: Artist of the RSFSR, 1983. - 438 p.
21. Vanchugov VV Russian idea in search of a "new world": the "golden age" of American philosophy in the context of Russia's self-knowledge. - Moscow: Unicum Center, 2000. - 328 p.
23. VI Vernadsky Reflections of a Naturalist. Scientific thought as a planetary phenomenon. The second book. - Moscow: Nauka, 1977. - 191 p.
34. GWF Hegel Philosophy of mind. Encyclopedia of Philosophy. v.3. - M.: Thought, 1977. - 471 p.
40. Gorelik GK Why space has three dimensions? - Moscow: Nauka, 1982. - 164 p.
43. Husserl E. The crisis of European humanity and philosophy. Problems of Philosophy, 1986, N 3, p. 101-116.
45. Debol'skii DD To the knowledge of the Absolute. Comparative experience of Hindu and Christian mystics. Publication, introduction and pointers A.L.Nikitina. - Moscow: Intergraph Service, 1996. - 176.
47. Diogenes Laertius. About the life, teachings and sayings of famous philosophers. Translated from the Greek M.L.Gasparova. - M.: Thought, 1986.
52. Living up to the person. P.Vud, L.Vachek, D.Dzh.Hemblin, Dzh.N.Leonard. Series "The origin of man." - Academic Press, 1977. - 160 p., Ill.
54. The history of religion. A.Elchaninov, V.Eri, P. Florensky, S. Bulgakov. - Moscow Center "runes", 1991. - 249.
55. Ichas M. On the nature of the living: mechanisms and implications. - Academic Press, 1994. - 496., Ill.
61. Cedars-BM Three aspects of atomic theory. Periodic Law. Logical-historical aspect. - Moscow: Nauka, 1969. - 307 p., Ill.
64. Kozik IA Philosophies Vernadsky. - Moscow: Moscow State University Press, 1963. - 80.
65. Kozlov SA History of Russia IX-XVIII centuries. documents and descriptions of contemporaries. - St.: Historical illustration, 1998. - 192 p.
67. Beauty and brains. Biological aspects of aesthetics. - Academic Press, 1995. - 335., Ill.
77. Losev AF Dialectics of Plotinus. - Moscow: Publishing author, 1928.
78. Losev AF Outlines of ancient symbolism and mythology. - M.: Thought, 1993. - 959 p.
79. Ludwig Wittgenstein: the man and thinker. - M.: Publishing group "Progress", Culture, 1993. - 352 p.
86. DI Mendeleev Two London reading. 2nd edition. - St.: 1895.
90. M. Maeterlinck Treasure of the Humble. The buried temple. Life of Bees. - Samara: Agni, 2000. - 440.
93. Nalimov VV The probabilistic model of language. On the relation between natural and artificial languages. - Moscow: Nauka, 1979 -303 p., Ill.
97. Nalimov VV The spontaneity of consciousness. Probabilistic theory of meaning and semantic architectonics personality. - M.: "Prometheus" Lenin Moscow State Pedagogical Institute, 1989. - 287 p.
100. A. Nikitin Mystics, Rosicrucians and the Templars in Soviet Russia: Research and Materials. - Moscow: Agraf, 2000. - 352 p.
101. Nietzsche, F. The Will to Power: The Experience of the revaluation of all values. - M.: REFL-book, 1994. - 352 p.
108. S. Radhakrishnan Indian Philosophy. Op. in two volumes. - Moscow: Foreign Literature, 1956-1957.
111. Rose C. The device memory. From the molecule to the mind. - Academic Press, 1995. - 380 p.
113. Sventsitsky IS Early Christianity: the pages of history. - M. Politizdat, 1989. - 336.
115. Szilard Lena. Hermeticism and hermeneutics. - St.: Izd Ivan Limbakh, 2002. - 328 p.
127. P. Hacker language network. - Encounter, April, 1971. - 85 p.
137. CG Jung Carl Gustav Jung on modern myths. Collection of works. Translated from the German. - M.: Practice, 1994. - 252 p., Ill.

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Kant considered the main feature of his critical mind . In your posts, alas , clearly discern the uncritical mind. It is hard to imagine anyone other than you took seriously the question of Cyril and seriously as the answer. How, I'm sorry, do you manage to write in the " academic" way, incomprehensible to me . This confusing esoteric philology - still okay, but academic work ... < - ~ 11 ~ ->



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I like to answer the questions : " Google is at it ".
It was not a question, but a famous quote .

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Honor , I wish you success!
What a little list !
I have read the list of ships to the middle :
This long brood, this train of cranes ...
( a )
Well this is how I need to live ?



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Honor , I wish you success!
Carefully read the entire list , many authors have become obsolete .
Read your opus. Are you really looking for people , but that does not mean that you have found or even find. Remember how in the Middle Ages, alchemists in their laboratories were "philosopher's stone " or get " gold" of copper sulfate and iron. Then alchemy was pseudoscience. Read Spinoza (it is not on your list ) - Treatise on the improvement of the mind and the way that is best directed to the true knowledge of things .
Very modern and useful thing.



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