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Старый 15.07.2013, 19:11 Язык оригинала: Русский       #521
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Especially fun in comparisons devil /demon deacon and /deacon .
What's so funny ? Just devil and Deacon - words written in the old tradition and correct , and only the spoken form devil and Deacon came in everyday life and is now recognized as a literary form .

Quite simply, if you step back from your insane theory of schizophrenia . <! - ~ 7 ~ ->



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Старый 15.07.2013, 20:17 Язык оригинала: Русский       #522
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Let us not seek the consent of that you have all been just a "simple" without the words unfamiliar to you.
I'm not looking for any agreement with you.
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Старый 16.07.2013, 00:24 Язык оригинала: Русский       #523
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A little distracted . Let's go back to the argument about the Observer and observations.

The philosophical concept called our contemporaries the term " observer " first teacher Cyril combination of letters marked " Az " .
In " Slavic alphabet : decoding and interpretation of the first Slavic poetic text " philology L.V.Saveleva , meaning the term " observer " , writes as deciphering the pronoun " I ": " Az ( " I " ) serves as the subject of knowledge and self-knowledge, as a starting point in the development of symbolic constructions . " And further: " Developing the theme of individual spiritual path , Cyril outlines the sacred model of the universe and at the same time sets the philosophical scope of human thought and spiritual search . < ... > Poles of the macrocosm , in which resides the individual human personality, it should form a sense of how the universe foundation for moral choice . "




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Старый 16.07.2013, 01:55 Язык оригинала: Русский       #524
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, " Renunciation of Satan " is included in the Orthodox rite of baptism :
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That's right, but I wonder is something else: the word Satan is derived from the word Satan , from the Arabic ... And in the story of the Muslim rituals in Mecca is " stoning of Satan with stones " .... This story eventually " moved " in the rite of baptism and the folk custom to spit over his shoulder to ward off a force that can prevent something ...

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And Jesus told the people who wanted him to death , "Your father - the devil, and the lusts of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning , and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaketh of his own : for he is a liar and the father of lies. "
( In.8 44 )
That's what the New Testament - increased confrontation in time ... By the way , the forum also feels ...
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Старый 16.07.2013, 07:22 Язык оригинала: Русский       #525
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And Jesus told the people who wanted him to death: «Your father - the devil, and the lusts of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar and the father of lies. »
(In.8 44)

Moreover, «renunciation of Satan» is in the Orthodox rite of baptism:
Who is Satan, and why God can not defeat him. What is this? Satan is stronger or is the second god? How many gods then? It is not clear. Why do people want from someone denying, if God can not defeat him. God is also a murderer, and yet in a perverted form, it will flood, then burn it, then advise the king to the seventh generation of lime. It does that mean?

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That's right, but I wonder is something else: the word Satan is derived from the word Satan, from the Arabic ... And in the story of the Muslim rituals in Mecca is "stoning of Satan with stones" .... This story eventually "moved" in the rite of baptism and the folk custom to spit over his shoulder to ward off a force that can prevent something ...
Let not agree. Rather, "Satan" from "Satan." First there was Yahweh, etc., and then on that basis masulmanskaya party-religion against the Crusaders, in the 9th century, if I'm not mistaken. The Bible is mainly developed in 6century BC




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Старый 16.07.2013, 09:22 Язык оригинала: Русский       #526
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God is also a murderer, and yet in a perverted form, it will flood, then burn
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on this basis masulmanskaya party-religion against the Crusaders, in the 9th century, if I'm not mistaken
In the seventh century, Islam entrenched in the territories occupied by the Crusaders. And I would say - the Crusaders were against the religion, and not vice versa. It then appeared jihad - holy war against the aggressor.

That's what the chroniclers wrote about the Crusades I-First Crusade.
Historian Raul de Caen wrote: «Our boiled in cauldrons adults incorrect. They put babies on spikes and fried them ». This episode has sown terror throughout the Islamic world.
Albert Aachen, chronicler and historian:
"There have been marvelous scenes worthy of capturing. Some of our people - and it was the most compassionate of our - cut the heads of enemies. Others do our battled them with arrows, and some also threw them alive into the fire, and then tortured for a long time and slowly killed. streets of the cities were full of felled heads, hands and lower limbs. So that even walking the streets, and then move without tripping on these limbs and the head was quite difficult. But that was nothing compared to the temple of King Solomon . And you wonder, what was there? If tell you frankly, I think you will be hard to believe my story. I'll tell you, at least that's what the blood rained in the Temple of King Solomon, reaches to the knees of our people " .

So where is God when under the banner of ones entire history is filled with blood? Maybe here:
Matt.10: 35 For I am come
set a man against his father,
and a daughter against her mother, and the daughter
in-law of her.
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to bring peace, but a sword
35 For I am come to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and her daughter-in-law.
36 And a man's foes - his own household.
37 He who loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me;
38 And he that taketh not his cross, and follow me is not worthy of Me.

(Matt.10 :34-38)
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In the seventh century, Islam entrenched in the territories occupied by the Crusaders . And I would say - the Crusaders were against the religion , and not vice versa. It then appeared jihad - holy war against the aggressor .
Artem ! I have said that Islam was created in opposition to the Crusaders . Religion is always a party of followers ready to fight . He made a mistake in the world, but think of the two - century more or less. Otherwise, I agree.



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Dear Paul, in the discussion of the principle of "observation" and "Direction" Artem said:
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"I would like to find an image of the principle of" Observation ", understood and accepted by all. That is not rejected by either Christians or atheists."

Unlikely to succeed. I'm afraid for atheists will be hard to understand the way the principle of "observation."
Experience has shown that starting principles of existence "Observation" and "Direction" fully hard to understand everything: atheists and religious, and hesitant. Therefore, as recorded Slavic philology L.V.Saveleva, thought and feeling educator Cyril, compressed names in alphabetical series, "presented the first poetic version of the Christian theory of knowledge, discovering new ways uncharted written culture. Its solid foundations were laid first teacher in the translation of the gospel ( Aprakos), hymnals and apostle. Alphabet is "prologue" to read and write, directed the activities of a person in accordance with clearly defined ethical guidelines, considering the introduction to reading and writing as the awakening of the individual, self-aware in this world. "

I'd add: it is about the alphabet in the form of "Cyrillic", which physiologically (mentally) generates knowledge and development. We think the words of the letters, which is encoded world order. Maybe when all will understand everything, brutality and ignorance will disappear. To understand as quickly as possible, I except the text on the principles of world order pick up the image.




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Dear Paul, in the discussion of the principle of "observation" and "Direction" Artem said:


Experience has shown that starting principles of existence "Observation" and "Direction" fully hard to understand everything: atheists and religious, and hesitant. Therefore, as recorded Slavic philology L.V.Saveleva, thought and feeling educator Cyril, compressed names in alphabetical series, "presented the first poetic version of the Christian theory of knowledge, discovering new ways uncharted written culture. Its solid foundations were laid first teacher in the translation of the gospel ( Aprakos), hymnals and apostle. Alphabet is "prologue" to read and write, directed the activities of a person in accordance with clearly defined ethical guidelines, considering the introduction to reading and writing as the awakening of the individual, self-aware in this world. "

I'd add: it is about the alphabet in the form of "Cyrillic", which physiologically (mentally) generates knowledge and development.
All you can understand, if simple and clear to state, but it is given only to men of genius. or just smart. <! - ~ 1 ~ ->



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Старый 16.07.2013, 10:18 Язык оригинала: Русский       #530
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we are talking about the alphabet in the form of "Cyrillic", which physiologically (mentally) generates knowledge and development.
A "Latin" physiologically what forms?



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