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Старый 14.04.2010, 10:58 Язык оригинала: Русский       #41
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E-Bay and sell it at a fixed price and auction? This is different or the same?
is different. telling.
There are 4 types of sales

1) net auction
2) the auction with a reserve price
3) for sale at a fixed price
4) for sale at a fixed price with the ability to accept price offers from buyers


What's the difference? mostly in fees for listing (on the placement of the lot) and in the final commissions (the auction is much more expensive fixed price - in that case, if the item is not sold). as well as in the term of placement.
for comparison - an auction - up to 10 days
Fixed - 30 days
price fixed allocation of 50 cents
price auction - 3 - 5 -10 dollars - there are many options
(All this without special functions to promote the product)

ie choose the type of listing should be done depending on the price you wish to have their own lot.

ebee have an obligation to sell, in case if you put the goods: ie auctions, beginning with 0 or so - just do not make sense often for pictures.
auction with a reserve price - more expensive.
thus remain options with a fixed price - both possible and cost the same. but - they are not possible for new users ebey. (Here is set to record - although the demand is not very high and it might well do)

there are shops - they are for those users who are constantly on the Internet and involved in sales. there stoimst accommodation - very small - but there is a monthly fee.

slightly above said about reputation. each transaction on ebee ranzhiruyuetsya buyer and seller - this way, users create a reputation score. Sometimes, however, parties to the transaction does not rank - although it is not accepted.

general - a reputation in scores is very important and affects the choice of the seller - but mostly in cases when it comes to buying a comparable product. great reputation only means that before you professionally earning on the internet people. small - that the most likely - is a regular user.
In addition - in addition to large and small "it is in all cases can be good and not herself.
ie - The number itself - it is ranked the number of transactions. and%- is customer satisfaction.

I think - left a little to the side - direct.

forgot to say is: the price of delivery can and should be reported separately. it has no effect on the price listing, or to the final commission.




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Старый 14.04.2010, 11:13 Язык оригинала: Русский       #42
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KaterinaMN, thanks! Very informative about the 4 types of sales, and in which one was your experience?
My friend always sells pictures (decorative "anyhow") at auction, but I have a feeling of what she spends hours there every day ...



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Старый 14.04.2010, 11:31 Язык оригинала: Русский       #43
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KaterinaMN, thanks! Very informative about the 4 types of sales, and in which one was your experience?
I have - only a fixed price and fixed with a proposal from the buyer.

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I have a friend constantly sells pictures (decorative "anyhow") at auction, but I have a feeling of what she seems to spend hours every day ...
In principle, I think that if focus is on Ebay and earn a living - so be it. the question is - does such a concentration point for the development of the artist. IMHO - is transformed into fulltimejob. in general - I'm a ebeyu well, but I think - that this is only one possibility. ie to be able to use. but without fanaticism

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I have a friend ever sells pictures (fine, anyhow) on auction
Just then a question of price - most likely, it sells an average of up to $ 200 and it already has its own audience.



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, in principle, I think that if the focus is on Ebay and earn a living - so be it. the question is - does such a concentration point for the development of the artist. IMHO - is transformed into fulltimejob. in general - I'm a ebeyu well, but I think - that this is only one possibility. ie to be able to use. but without fanaticism
     
I agree completely! vemeni how much is spent on the kind of sales that you have practiced (if known)



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Старый 14.04.2010, 12:22 Язык оригинала: Русский       #45
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I think - left a little to the side - direct.
What do you think is better: to immediately write to the seller of that work, "incorrect" and that he had taken it off the auction, or keep track of these proceeds for the auction and then analyzed, communicate it to the other?
Will information about the authenticity of the decision of the seller?



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My friend always sells pictures (decorative "anyhow") at an auction

Just then a question of price - most likely, it sells an average of up to $ 200 and it already has its own audience.
No, the price range of 30-70 pounds ..
For 200 dollars I would have thought ...



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Старый 15.04.2010, 00:26 Язык оригинала: Русский       #47
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vemeni how much is spent on the kind of sales that you have practiced (if known)
Difficult to say. I do not want to cheat. it was so - that some images have bought almost in a row. then - silence. and then - again a couple of pictures. but in my experience of statistics is still too early to learn

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No, the price range of 30-70 pounds ..
For 200 dollars I would have thought ...
70 lbs - this time as a $ 100 "To be absolutely honest - my phrase originally sounded - to $ 200, but rather more - closer to 100 - but then somehow I was too embarrassed . was - was far more right than she thought

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What do you think is better: to immediately write to the seller of that work, "incorrect" and that he had taken it off the auction, or keep track of these proceeds for the auction and then analyzed, communicate it to the other?
Will information about the authenticity of the decision of the seller?
To be absolutely fair - most likely in similar situations, when there are doubts about the authenticity of the lot - from a seller somewhere in the text stated: "as is" or something of that sort. Usually they are writing - signed by Chagall, but if I'm not sure, and documents I have. In principle - you, as a specialist, is likely to be clear on the price or not the seller believes its true picture. Insofar as there are no documents certificate - it is likely the price will be relatively low and even the buyer does not expect to buy an original.

I think - are important cases where the list of documents are certificates, provenance, etc. Here in these cases - I think it makes sense to contact the seller and may inform the support of the site. In general, it would be interesting to see some concrete examples and look at him what was going on: 1) fraudulent seller, and 2) misleading the seller, and 3) marketing ploy to attract per inhabitant, without intent to deceive.

And the statistics - it's never too late to collect if there are sellers who repeatedly made "fake" lots with fraudulent intent - it might interest from USA police.




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And the statistics - it's never too late to collect if there are sellers who repeatedly made "fake" lots with fraudulent intent - it might interest from USA police.
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...ghlight=lazark

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showpo...&postcount=156

Do you think the U.S. "penta" willing and able to understand?



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Do you think the U.S. "penta" willing and able to understand?
I think they - yes. if there is a valid excuse.
(For me to police a very good impression was made - even to their street patrols would like to come and ask for directions )
but generally in New York City police officers in cars is written:
 respect, courtesy and something else is the same ))

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go read the links.

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dedulya37,

read some posts that lazarka,
it really guarantees the authenticity of paintings and claims that they bought from the artist's family. (By the way, can I check this with your family?? Maybe someone knows?)

also looked at the two sold their paintings in February and March, which he also is attributed to Stozharau.
once in about statistics: The shelf life of open information on ebee - 2 months. (Maybe 3 - but I do not remember exactly) - so if you collect statistics - Morristown keep all iformatsiyu from these pages: description, pictures, number of lots. and also - information about customers. information about delivery and payment. photos. ie - All. otherwise these sites simply disappear.

in about one painting, which he now sells. I would have to start to proceed as follows: contact with him as a buyer and ask for additional documents (our youth will not accept returns!)
depending on whether he will send - make decisions on further action.

In addition - there is always a function - contact ebeem and "complain" that do not yet purchased goods (to be honest - did not enjoy, do not know).

and - as another option - you can try to contact buyers lazarka - this feature is not always available - Ebey protected from spam ))) or what he thinks he can be so

but in any case - I'd wait for his answer, and those documents that he would send.

and yet such a thought - if it came to legal action - that in principle, they can be initiated not necessarily buyers. family of the artist can also be a party here. in principle - they can initiate legal action. in the case - I can ask questions of their friends from USA lawyers




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KaterinaMN, when I asked this question, I mean at the time the computer spent on design, monitoring ... (T, P,) (anyway thanks for the reply)
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how much vemeni goes to the kind of sales that you have practiced (if known)



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