Records Christie's

[Wladzislaw]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky ; 2846131 "

So can you explain about this " a wash ," What is this? For what? Who cares ?

One needs cash to others - bank money .

Consider the transition of cash in non-cash when selling something expensive .

For example, in the city of Samara is a Mr. Cyril S. engaged art. And there is a Mr. Ivan N., the former owner of the casino chain in C. At Mr. Cyril C. there is a place for sale of paintings, Mr. Ivan N. has a significant amount of cash unaccounted money. And Mr. Ivan N. wants to legalize them, for example , for the construction of the business center, so that no one asked him , and where did you get all this money ( a registered yesterday, Ltd. with a registered fund of 3 million was growing up. Rubles).

And it turns out that Mr. Ivan N. was a valuable painting he bought a long time ago and did not even know that it is so valuable . But now for some reason decided to sell (the wife conceived repair , and the picture is no longer suitable , but what a difference , no longer liked ) . And he brought Mr. Kirilla S., and shalt Mr. said that the picture is very valuable and it will take the it up for sale for a small fee . And soon came to a complete stranger , Mr. , whose initials and even not just Peter, and admiring the picture , reserved it, and the next day came and paid 300 million . growing up. rubles in cash ( Agreed payment through a bank, the firm of Peter buys for office decoration this picture, Mr. Cyril S. and wrote out a bill for payment , but Peter came , and suddenly bring cash) . And it is not illegal to sell in Russia picture for cash , and require a passport when purchasing no law ... Mr. Cyril C. immediately encash the entire amount of money in the bank. Leaving himself on the previously prepared an agreement with Mr. Ivan N. 30 th was growing up. rub. , other amounts listed named Mr. Ivan N.

Delighted so successful sale of Mr. Ivan N. pay tax on the amount received , and the remaining money is invested at the Company , which is building a business center. And not a single journalist gadsky not say that money is not legitimate ! And he, Ivan N. honest businessman unexpectedly received the money , not their propyl , and invested in the noble cause of building a better business center in the city. ( Yes, previously owned casinos. But it was extremely simple , no claims of financial bodies ! And before that broke the jaw of a man in the market ? ... Well, yes , there was such Dashing ... 90 ... What are you ... So , served for it. Well , this is the end of life to remember. atoned for , you know. 's and still decided to donate to the church ) .

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Wladzislaw

300 million.
growing up.
rubles in cash

Leaving himself on the previously prepared an agreement with Mr. Ivan N. 30 th was growing up.
rub.

Million, 30 mil.
growing up.
rubles.

Less than 10%that Mr. Cyril S. mess will not, I know him.
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[Wladzislaw]

Why S. shot in the head 30 mil.?


Klyuvayte in a little <! - ~ 1 ~ ->


It is possible and little by little (3-5 thousand USD, unless pursue Gross <! - ~ 1 ~ ->), but every day, but through a different business.

[манна]

Сообщение от Wladzislaw; 2847541"

Delighted so successful sale of Mr. Ivan N. pays tax on the amount received

if

Сообщение от Wladzislaw; 2847541"

he bought a long time

then Mr. Ivan and no need to pay tax .

Article 217. Tax Code. Income not subject to tax ( Exempt )

17.1 ) income earned by individuals who are tax residents of the Russian Federation , the relevant tax period from the sale of houses, apartments, rooms, including privatized dwellings , villas , garden houses or land and interests in the said property , owned by the taxpayer three year or more , and the sale of other property owned by the taxpayer is more than three years.

[Сергей Дородный]

Сообщение от zarajara

Maybe deaf beaver and two-headed crocodile . Anyway , no one understands IMHO pricing mechanism and no one understands why. Definitely not for the art, even if it is really like for like as no one gives .
Most lousy when you try to explain to the students that they should draw lots to learn to do it well. Feel ... Well in general feel stupid . That's just today was such a conversation . They say that in general there is no sense to draw : it is thanks, Basquiat , Koons and their ilk . And really - why? To what? Now this is some completely separate type of activity unrelated to sales.
There is no dependence of price - quality and price - the talent , the price - mastery . And you never know for the next time someone tells fortune finger .
142.5 million for Bacon ! he twice steeper Rubens ?
And I already think just gag when under this price someone starts to talk about how talented artist . It is understandable that it no longer has any value. And what has to art in general does not apply .
This is a purely psychological effect when all are called plain woman beautiful after a while you start to find her attractive , and only then on their own initiative seek in it something beautiful and funny thing - when you find <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

zarajara, with regard to the pricing mechanism , then all clear Hon . The fact that the share of the banking sector in the economy over the last 30-40 years has increased from 20%to 60 %. This means that 60 %of all businesses are actually owned by banks.
 And if Ford had paid for any painting not from labor , but from the blood of income , now this picture is bought by the bank (or banker ) for his collection with ease - the whole world is in debt from U.S. banks bear interest and there are (including Russian companies ) . ( Yes, even printed dollars coming into the economy through American banks ) . Given that at any moment something somewhere in this system may uhnut , people rush to press itself reliable values ​​, albeit inexplicably prices. If uhnet - what then demand? And not uhnet and the system will work - something like a profitable investment .

But as far as the ability to draw, then I think the following .
Too many people , including and seems to be interested in art , forget about the magical power of art . ( Let no one can not fully explain what it is, where does and how it works . ) Nevrubayuschiesya Very often substitute the concept of "art" is the concept of " skill." And tugoumno looking at this skill works , forgetting that the meaning of what is happening - MAGIC .
( How often argue ? Used artist " golden ratio " - the genius ( genius especially if often wrote about it - say, in such a picture , I used the golden ratio ) , and not used - as a goof , well, at least lied to in his memoirs .)

And if the artist (in the broad sense) without training can create magic , you have to be a fool to learn.
And if you can not but believe that somewhere inside him have this ability , you have to learn and find a way through the magic of professional skill .

Basquiat and Koons does the magic .

That's the way the students and say, who can - to the output, and who can not - " silk stockings take off and march to school lessons to teach " (c).

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Sergei burly ; 2847891"

But as far as the ability to draw ,

It is not in the ability to draw well in school. The school is self-understanding , its features compared with the same last competition . The artist's life is a constant competition , and you magic. Thousands walked by Van Gogh , and you want to see and determine well, well . Shchukin was shot even though he had a great experience, and razzorilsya . Want to see the price and determine ? Well, well .

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Pavel

Shchukin shot

Are you sure?
A poisoned?
Not hanged?

[Владимир Владимирович]

Сообщение от Pavel

The artist's life is a constant competition, and you magic.

The main magic happens in further sales.
Bacon and Basquiat died and did not draw, and prices and rostut rostut.
Other people have been working.
That's wizards!
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[Wladzislaw]

Сообщение от manna ; 2847781"

as well as the sale of other property owned by the taxpayer is more than three years .

But the fact that Mr. Ivan N. no purchase documents (the smaller documents , the fewer questions in such matters ), and he did not want to be , honest taxpayer anything accused tabloid journalists <! - 1 ~ ~ -> .

When single large operations better when the principle of popular izdozhenny in the phrase : " What did you steal from losses to profits steal " .

That - that was not sorry when, after 10 years pops tax evasion case ( it does not matter if you had to pay them ) and another equally honest taxpayer (because taxes are not paid , not because of what was to pay, and dad had - chief Federal Bureau of everything tundra adjacent to Kazakhstan ) will overcome his business center.

[Hollandup]

"Line of classical aesthetics - " pleasurable satisfaction feelings " , which acquired Malevich unexpected turn led him to the theory of non-objective cost - minimalist painting , ultimately denying the actual painting in the traditional existence and passing in some special transcendental " dimension " , which opens on Beyond the absolute "zero" [373] . "

really on the other side of zero for the last 100 years, many of which stuck ..
not only art , but prices have gone in the " special transcendent dimension "
.. outside the mind, without taking into account , without tic of ( pointless ) "( 254)