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Старый 24.09.2013, 13:41 Язык оригинала: Русский       #41
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Disassemble for proposals (1, 2 and final part )

1. More than two dozen works by the artist - this is sheer nonsense . Exhibited at the Museum of Private Collections Tischler give very little idea of ​​his work , especially his development. With the same success can be judged on the work of the same Chagall , twenty or thirty works , half of which - the schedule. And Picasso can be twenty to thirty works (you can skip item 2 and a smooth transition to the third paragraph .)

2 . You apparently really bad fancy work of Alexander Tischler . For those 30-40 years with him there were very big metamorphosis. Tyshler twenties and thirties and Tyshler the sixties and seventies - are completely different artists . Varies and technology, and the style and vision of the world . To claim otherwise can only person who knew him only one hall in the Museum of Private Collections .

3 . What did Tyshler new? It's nothing. And the step that you mention it, said nothing new in his long life . He sat on a ridge ( the cow ) and even went . Once you indiscriminately , stroke one size fits all ... The artist opens his style and develop it further . The problem is the same - to open the most " obvious ", " so simple " , "many - artists - as - can " style , which will be in tune with the times and all that no one will be able to repeat , because a) he can not, b) will be secondary.

The bottom line - in simplicity, but not all artists can find this very easy . Simplicity - the inheritance of genius.

I can not vouch for the absolute accuracy of the quote ( too lazy to look ), but Tyshler once said : "I was always accused me of writing the same background . So, I have never in my life did not write the same background ." Perhaps he had seen a little more than yours?

Vladimir Yakovlev also entirely flowers all my life , " daub " ... But what !!!
If you were careful , you would understand that I answered the question . Where can I see the work of Tischler ? Incidentally OF DIFFERENT TIME ! All essentially the same thing ! And the example of Picasso's extremely not good , that's who was always looking for new and was a genius . A work for 15 years, has seen a lot of Tischler and his works represent not bad for the quality of all the less decent, but the same . According to what you've decided that I'm familiar with his work in one hall ? If the novelty of the artist and contribute to the development of art was determined by the color and shades of the background and twigs on the basket around the head of a female figure ..... . Everybody has their own understanding ....
You see the development , perfection of style and technique , and I simplification techniques and coloristic " showiness " in almost all upcoming artists because of their age (in memory of a few artists come to live a long creative life, and although changed , but the quality is not lost - Vasily Shukhaiev for example, Vedernikova things were upscale ) plus young with their more flowery things, and want to seem modern . How many modern artists had to communicate - all consider his later work best , although seen to gently put doubt in this thesis . By the way later sell willingly , and early 60s-70s still say so with the " undiscovered and undeveloped style" you can not buy and they cost ten times more . And Matisse and Picasso, I would suppose the difference is not so great. Think why?
Creativity Tischler no one and did not criticize , everything that I have said - my point of view on his work in the context of " the Sixties ."
  Who all indiscriminately ? Chagall mentioned ? That lived a long time , but that is not enough?
But once you " can say without knowing Tischler . " You might also like
If I wrote " With only a man without any taste in art is able to see " A very big metamorphosis , and in tune with the style of the time. "Style in tune with the time of Nyssa , Popkov, on the one hand and
Rabin , Plavinsky , Krasnopevtsev Sveshnikov on the other. Here you can still turn on and "left MOSH " , they also formed the style of the time .
 And indeed Alexander Tischler , constantly criticized for being monotonous , too, I'm sorry I do not want to look straight highly respected artist and said, "Painting A. Tischler to be extremely monotonous and by plot and execution. " So I agree with him , this artist is large and very nice, it , like many others , too, problems with vision and taste ?
 By the way, it would be bad if Yakovlev would like a lot of work on the urban landscape , I'm sure we would have . Can anyone have a photo?
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Tyshler twenties and thirties and Tyshler the sixties and seventies - are completely different artists . Varies and technology, and the style and vision of the world .
About " vision of the world " I can not judge , but things Tischler 20-30 years are identified as "tyshlerovskie" at times as the things it is very fruitful 70 , which in turn reminiscent of the early stuff. <! - ~ 1 ~ ->



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. More than two dozen works by the artist - this is sheer nonsense . Exhibited at the Museum of Private Collections Tischler give very little idea of ​​his work , especially his development. With the same success can be judged on the work of the same Chagall , twenty or thirty works , half of which - the schedule. And Picasso can be twenty to thirty works (you can skip item 2 and a smooth transition to the third paragraph .)

  Picasso and Chagall to the topic does not have , even though two big exhibitions were held in Moscow , Chagall in the Tretyakov Gallery , the Pushkin Picasso .
  Meant masljannye great things , and the good , in my charts there is just much smaller. The museum has been a long time , remember the wall - on against the windows , where the cycle " Makhnovshchina , " so there are things remarkably similar , all the same , only slightly less light , a little heavier and not so subtly , even though the work itself is very good. Museum " Private Collection" is an example of what to Bursch ... - py to visit , or what to ask for . <! - ~ 7 ~ ->
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Старый 24.09.2013, 16:57 Язык оригинала: Русский       #44
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What a fun and informative topic turned out !
That's all because of one issue
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Alexander Tyshler sixties ?
Though the torment of swallowing dust , still had a lot of fun . And it was funny to read some of the statements and of making hasty conclusions about Tischler , razdobytye of context www.jewish.ru <! - ~ 1 ~ -> http://www.jewish.ru/culture/press/2009/03/news994272124.php

Well, thank God , everything fell into place and no longer argue. Yes, no one was arguing , as it turned out <! - ~ 1 ~ -> main thing is to be able to say the black and white contrast . And then there will be an impression reinforced concrete confidence. <! - ~ 5 ~ ->

Because I'm the instigator of this long debate , let me finish it, and with a sense of satisfaction that so many had to learn about Tischler . <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

As for today's deviation from the main theme has been said that in the period 1963-65 . Tyshler very seriously took a fairly new technique for the time felt-tip pen . He has created many series : clowns, pinwheels , bouquets, fabulous cities , flower shelf, female portraits , etc. I have maybe not everything, but it was 68 images of works from this period marker.

As mentioned here before , Tyshler very much engaged wooden sculpture. The foundation was laid in the 30 's. But the most intense period was in the 50 's and 60's . Although , culture sculpture lasted until his death.
Will show only a few of those 48 pictures my archive , early 50's and one of the last wooden sculptures.

I had seen a lot of work Tischler from different creative directions Lukashenko's because the work of this master was interested in many years.

Also , to bring to your attention a few early works Tischler , some on the internet is not. And one - ( I do not like ) , as if the late replay "of the woman with glasses " (I think that it is a fake ) .
Two photos from Tyshler against the wooden sculptures .

Everyone who participated thank you for the discussion!
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Also , to bring to your attention a few early works Tischler , some on the internet is not. And one - ( I do not like ) , as if the late replay "of the woman with glasses " (I think that it is a fake ).
The author of a monograph on Tischler comrade . Cyril Fireflies also believes that trumped many imitations Tischler AG
And factories, and will fabricate .



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