Yu.P.Annenkov, "Portrait of D.Yu.Gessena"

[Glasha]

Сообщение от maket; 2184431"

And the strtannoe why the paper has a similar manufacturing flaws , as if the sheets were taken from a stack , one after another ?

Of defects on the paper can remember , but without seeing them, do not take into account, because it's too strange story out.
Because that there is a portrait - a fact. And the difference in the performance of two works - a person who is also a fact .
Personally, I'm here I see the futility of copying , rather than the author's repetition ( on many points ).
Note that I look only at work, pulling away from the story. You asked for opinions on it - did not fail to say , once it is. I understand that smart and experienced it does not take into account people .

And in the history of your faith , even if life teaches , teaches , but consciously choose faith presumption <! - ~ 1 ~ ->.

p.s. If you just know that the work did not leave the house ( and before you were born ), ie You just gave this information, then, really , just had to pass , and the history of portrait -double ?

[AlexSpb]

Сообщение от Seraphim Vershinin

Posted by AlexSpb
With respect to the portrait is still possible to avoid (especially photographs) that your option is to sketch in relation to what was sold at auction

I am afraid that in this case, you should not let this happen. Where are your eyes?

Posted 5 minutes

Well, yes, the one you show, not a shadow on his face, and cadaveric spots ...

What you are my eyes?
Eyes like the eyes ...
I am the way, the thing did not like about it and I just wrote. Pretty sure that after watching the live, buy it, I would not dare.
But under the original message immediately appeared a few acknowledgments.

What would you to the eyes of these people do not potseplyatsya?

And I have never and nowhere a graduate art historian, is not recommended, and in any case are not. Thus, there is some experience.

And yet, regardless of subject matter, I note that such categorical statements are usually belongs to men, in terms of employment which are not part of the adoption of important decisions about expensive purchases.
Much safer, would not answer, but to sharpen the wit on other people's things.

Well, where there is putrid spots?
Or do you have part-time and a pathologist?

Of course, there is much more comfortable and psychologically - to deny the kind of thing (who does not believe, I advise you to carefully read the topic about Stozharov).
I do not remember which one of the experts naively repudiate the charges of extortion for a positive verdict about these terms:
"... There were doubts ... prestrahovalis ... What if a dubious venture to affirm a thing, and then come to our new owners and say: Very well-ka buy! And what would you do? ..."

I just meant that I really do not know how Annenkov worked on portraits - making a realistic sketches first, which then apparently destroyed, and how realistic these sketches could be. Or he could just "from nature" expanded the person on the plane? The same would not be surprised at what he - Artist with a capital letter. In the two volumes of memoirs, who carefully read in his youth, the answer to this question can not remember. So if anyone knows for sure, I'll be very grateful for the information - I think this question is very interesting.

With respect to Arcimboldo, for example, I have little doubt that he could not just "fair copy" of concrete to paint the portraits of people - instead of snail ears, noses instead of eggplant, etc.

[maket]

Сообщение от Glasha; 2184551"

p.s. If you know exactly what work did not leave the house (and before you were born), ie You just gave this information, then, really, just had to pass, and the history of portrait-double?

I know that so many times Rae offered to sell the portrait, but every time she refused, saying that only after her death. She lived for almost 100 years, including I think that those who wanted to buy, died before her. He always hung in her room on the wall.

About how he painted portraits, always said that Daniel Hesse and Yuri Annenkov, friends, and in severe revolutionary time Daniel did not support many of the money, as is done now, and more rations <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

He also was friends with Chukovsky http://www.lechaim.ru/ARHIV/177/kacis.htm

It is possible that a portrait of Daniel gave Raisa, and the other stayed with Annenkov, or who else was donated. Maybe otgadka in the back, where there are different dates. Also because the issue, the picture is dated 1922 and signed on the reverse side of 1924. Again, the "first" of the portrait is only a sign in English translation, and there is another date. I can not answer the question, why are not listed on the back of the date and time, and, on two different portraits.

[Зея]

maket, like version!
And could any of your, family environment, to give this work to the exhibition, the museum, for a consultation on some event dedicated to the author.
Quietly, make a copy, gave the hosts, and the original "out" in an unknown direction.

[Glasha]

Zeya, I have exactly the same thing and asked how the version that allows this situation:

Сообщение от Glasha

Still, reminisce, porassprashivayte - Do not give under any pretext work from home for a while?

But saying "no."

[maket]

Сообщение от Zeya , 2184611"

And could any of your , family environment, to give the work to the exhibition, the museum, for consultation, to any event dedicated to the author. Quietly, made ​​a copy , gave the hosts , and the original "left" in an unknown direction.

Excluded. And if it makes a copy, then again, trying to repeat , would not change the date , and the paper ?

[Зея]

Glasha, I'm sorry, was not paying attention.

[Glasha]

Zeya, so that you ... <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

I just disagree with the fact that this version has placed quite plausible to explain everything.
But of course it also would mean that the work of the family lost.

[Eriksson]

Сообщение от "maket; 2184491 '

work was from 01 November 2006 to March 29, 2007 in the Russian Museum,

And until 2004 the work of a single day did not leave the walls of the house?

maket, you are absolutely sure of this?

[Зея]

And I'm sure at some point, the work have changed.
And instead of the original, slipped up.
The big question, who did it and when?
Well, for what we understand this perfectly.
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