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khmelev · 06.05.2015, 18:40

in this interview Soldatenkov a lot of surprising moments. For example, like this. He writes about the "kinks":
"In other words, a copy belonging to Andrey Vasilyev, made before the restorer in 1984 reconstructed this almost completely lost fragment. The fact that of the fact that the reconstruction of the past 30 years simply forgot. Unfortunately, nothing about him was written in the documentation."
We are talking about the restoration in the Russian Museum. There occurs some kind of speculative reconstruction, which is forgotten after so many years. And in the documentation " unfortunately did not write."
We are talking, remember, about the restoration passport. !!!!

A single word, give, you bastards

Магнолия · 06.05.2015, 19:12

redbor, khmelev, the main thing - the Museum is not an accomplice!

redbor · 06.05.2015, 19:43

It and to a hedgehog is clear: the Museum is an inanimate object and an accomplice cannot be

.
Partners can be the only people

khmelev · 06.05.2015, 19:51

in my opinion this interview, Mr. Soldatenkov has previously agreed that the Museum "at Affairs". there is a forensic examination of the Museum's paintings, stating that there were 2 restoration. One admission things to the Museum, and the other, actively changing the author's intent, later. Now I understand that we are talking about these teeth. This means that the Museum, in order to divert suspicion from himself, slightly altered the original. Other options can not be. And it's awful.

Питер-С · 06.05.2015, 20:54

Restorations according to M. Zolotonosha was generally very much: "...three of the restoration of the figure of Boris Grigoriev in 1985, 1987 and 1995.......besides, it is necessary to remember that the true figure of Boris Grigoriev from the collection of timing was at the command of the investigating authorities forwarded for examination to the Tretyakov gallery. There was discovered the fourth restoration..."

Source here

...although can we now trust the honesty of the experts of the Tretyakov gallery after they just searches

...

Source here

khmelev · 06.05.2015, 21:23

and guess what?- because there is a criminal case, which contains interviews with all participants. Now comes the court, give testimony under oath. And the text Soldatenkov he just an article in the newspaper. It would be correct to call Soldatenkov to court and be questioned.

K-Maler · 06.05.2015, 21:58

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student work

Also a strange assumption. With such works "student" are not written, it's like with Matisse to do "student". To imitate - please...

Питер-С · 06.05.2015, 22:13

Why not postoperati Matisse?

Маруся · 07.05.2015, 15:17

Tough choice who to trust:

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experts of the Tretyakov gallery after they just searches...

or

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M. Zolotonosha

Магнолия · 08.05.2015, 18:56

Taking advantage of the publicity, copy in this issue message Vasiliev journalist.

"Andrey Vasilyev
It seems to me that the author, guided by basic journalistic ethics could take and I comment on issues. However, this is why something happened. The specific issues - Mr. Soldatenkov somehow fails to mention in his story that the Museum's painting underwent a forensic examination in the State Tretyakov Gallery. There it is concluded that the painting underwent two restorations. Quote: In the study of the works identified extensive zones of intervention in the original author's paintings. In addition to glued in the restoration and tinted tears and losses along songs (recorded in the restoration passport provided by the Russian Museum) work ACTIVELY WRITTEN over the original layer.

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Andrey Vasilyev
Late interventions are divided into two groups. The first is the restoration of the tears and losses at edges of sheet, made on a high professional level (reflected in the restoration passport provided by the RM). The second intensive recording whitewash and allosterism colors in the right half of the composition, on the upper edge and partially on the left side. Originally this record was considered as the author's processing so much and she actively changes the original author's intent...

I like yesterday at 15:02|Reply

Andrey Vasilyev
Well If You compare the official data of judicial examination with babble Soldatenkov, may be you will agree with mnazi that he was lying. Similar expertise I can provide and the quality of counterfeits. And much of the police report regarding the necessity of excitation of criminal case since July 2011 and the decisions of the courts regarding illegal inactivity I got a lot. Fortunately the matter is pending in court and shut up or lying about it now will fail. If You have any questions for me, I with pleasure will answer them
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To comment on.. "

06.05.2015, 19:12	Язык оригинала: Русский #442
Магнолия Гуру Регистрация: 05.04.2012 Адрес: Санкт-Петербург Сообщений: 2,575 Спасибо: 1,188 Поблагодарили 1,921 раз(а) в 1,144 сообщениях Записей в дневнике: 36 Репутация: 3834	redbor, khmelev, the main thing - the Museum is not an accomplice! __________________ Невозможно человеку самостоятельно открыть Дверь, ведущую в Мир Духовный. Но кто-то иной должен прийти и приоткрыть эту Дверь. (с) И кто б ты ни был, Дух, пред кем мы пленны, Привет мой всем — и брату, и врагу. (с) Константин Бальмонт "ПОХВАЛА УМУ"

06.05.2015, 20:54	Язык оригинала: Русский #445
Питер-С Пользователь Регистрация: 15.02.2014 Адрес: Санкт-Петербург Сообщений: 47 Спасибо: 15 Поблагодарили 73 раз(а) в 36 сообщениях Репутация: 146	Restorations according to M. Zolotonosha was generally very much: "...three of the restoration of the figure of Boris Grigoriev in 1985, 1987 and 1995.......besides, it is necessary to remember that the true figure of Boris Grigoriev from the collection of timing was at the command of the investigating authorities forwarded for examination to the Tretyakov gallery. There was discovered the fourth restoration..." Source here ...although can we now trust the honesty of the experts of the Tretyakov gallery after they just searches... Source here Последний раз редактировалось Питер-С; 06.05.2015 в 21:32.

06.05.2015, 22:13	Язык оригинала: Русский #448
Питер-С Пользователь Регистрация: 15.02.2014 Адрес: Санкт-Петербург Сообщений: 47 Спасибо: 15 Поблагодарили 73 раз(а) в 36 сообщениях Репутация: 146	Why not postoperati Matisse? Миниатюры

08.05.2015, 18:56	Язык оригинала: Русский #450
Магнолия Гуру Регистрация: 05.04.2012 Адрес: Санкт-Петербург Сообщений: 2,575 Спасибо: 1,188 Поблагодарили 1,921 раз(а) в 1,144 сообщениях Записей в дневнике: 36 Репутация: 3834	Taking advantage of the publicity, copy in this issue message Vasiliev journalist. "Andrey Vasilyev It seems to me that the author, guided by basic journalistic ethics could take and I comment on issues. However, this is why something happened. The specific issues - Mr. Soldatenkov somehow fails to mention in his story that the Museum's painting underwent a forensic examination in the State Tretyakov Gallery. There it is concluded that the painting underwent two restorations. Quote: In the study of the works identified extensive zones of intervention in the original author's paintings. In addition to glued in the restoration and tinted tears and losses along songs (recorded in the restoration passport provided by the Russian Museum) work ACTIVELY WRITTEN over the original layer. I like yesterday at 14:58\|Reply Andrey Vasilyev Late interventions are divided into two groups. The first is the restoration of the tears and losses at edges of sheet, made on a high professional level (reflected in the restoration passport provided by the RM). The second intensive recording whitewash and allosterism colors in the right half of the composition, on the upper edge and partially on the left side. Originally this record was considered as the author's processing so much and she actively changes the original author's intent... I like yesterday at 15:02\|Reply Andrey Vasilyev Well If You compare the official data of judicial examination with babble Soldatenkov, may be you will agree with mnazi that he was lying. Similar expertise I can provide and the quality of counterfeits. And much of the police report regarding the necessity of excitation of criminal case since July 2011 and the decisions of the courts regarding illegal inactivity I got a lot. Fortunately the matter is pending in court and shut up or lying about it now will fail. If You have any questions for me, I with pleasure will answer them I like yesterday at 15:06\|Reply To comment on.. " __________________ Невозможно человеку самостоятельно открыть Дверь, ведущую в Мир Духовный. Но кто-то иной должен прийти и приоткрыть эту Дверь. (с) И кто б ты ни был, Дух, пред кем мы пленны, Привет мой всем — и брату, и врагу. (с) Константин Бальмонт "ПОХВАЛА УМУ"

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06.05.2015, 18:40	Язык оригинала: Русский #441
khmelev Гуру Регистрация: 26.10.2008 Сообщений: 1,026 Спасибо: 75 Поблагодарили 915 раз(а) в 329 сообщениях Репутация: 1815	in this interview Soldatenkov a lot of surprising moments. For example, like this. He writes about the "kinks": "In other words, a copy belonging to Andrey Vasilyev, made before the restorer in 1984 reconstructed this almost completely lost fragment. The fact that of the fact that the reconstruction of the past 30 years simply forgot. Unfortunately, nothing about him was written in the documentation." We are talking about the restoration in the Russian Museum. There occurs some kind of speculative reconstruction, which is forgotten after so many years. And in the documentation " unfortunately did not write." We are talking, remember, about the restoration passport. !!!! A single word, give, you bastards

06.05.2015, 19:43	Язык оригинала: Русский #443
redbor Гуру Регистрация: 26.01.2009 Сообщений: 4,911 Спасибо: 799 Поблагодарили 1,712 раз(а) в 1,079 сообщениях Репутация: 3349	It and to a hedgehog is clear: the Museum is an inanimate object and an accomplice cannot be . Partners can be the only people

06.05.2015, 19:51	Язык оригинала: Русский #444
khmelev Гуру Регистрация: 26.10.2008 Сообщений: 1,026 Спасибо: 75 Поблагодарили 915 раз(а) в 329 сообщениях Репутация: 1815	in my opinion this interview, Mr. Soldatenkov has previously agreed that the Museum "at Affairs". there is a forensic examination of the Museum's paintings, stating that there were 2 restoration. One admission things to the Museum, and the other, actively changing the author's intent, later. Now I understand that we are talking about these teeth. This means that the Museum, in order to divert suspicion from himself, slightly altered the original. Other options can not be. And it's awful.

06.05.2015, 21:23	Язык оригинала: Русский #446
khmelev Гуру Регистрация: 26.10.2008 Сообщений: 1,026 Спасибо: 75 Поблагодарили 915 раз(а) в 329 сообщениях Репутация: 1815	and guess what?- because there is a criminal case, which contains interviews with all participants. Now comes the court, give testimony under oath. And the text Soldatenkov he just an article in the newspaper. It would be correct to call Soldatenkov to court and be questioned.