How to invest $ 100 000

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Сообщение от Wladzislaw

I doubt that the foundry studio like when tarnished their reputation.

Not seen in the words of art critic from the Hermitage something impeaching a Versailles casting studio:

And since they bought the rights, they can repeat the statue and repeat the sculpture ...

[Wladzislaw]

Сообщение от Eugene

Message from Wladzislaw


Statement Shadrina that lithography is not fake - did not match reality. Rarely, but counterfeited.




Here I agree with you (on the application Shadrina).
To account "rarely", lithograph forged with tens of thousands of copies .. on the forum about this many times already wrote ...

Cheating in trade a few other engravings. He is a fraud, but not in manufacturing fake copies of these works.

To sign the present work, which did not have these.

Or make lithographs of paintings of the authors and put fake number or signature. Quite often the signs in fear, there are only numbers. Limited edition! Or add a signature stamp. It seems to give it a shorter term
This lithography - Lithography, then that shows the work of Dali - Dali. Here! Sell Dali lithograph! For Fakes give a prison term, but such actions have the opportunity to wiggle out.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran, 1220111

Not found in the words of art critic from the Hermitage something impeaching a Versailles casting studio:

And I saw. In the studio contract strictly limited edition.

[Wladzislaw]

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[Евгений]

Сообщение от Wladzislaw

concerning the work found at the Moore. It is not that simple. These works are not fake. They have a real signature of Dali and were made under these stones, which were not sanded after making copies. They work in illegal circulation, but it is real work Dali - with real stones and these signatures Dali. The essence of the case - fraud, rather than making fakes.

I disagree with you, is simply zalipuhi-counterfeiting, for example, "lithography" taken on the printer, a super-fake by Moore, but the essence is a forgery and collecting them does not make sense.

[Wladzislaw]

In Moore's not a fake, and unlimited edition.

I explain the details.

For lithographs on special stones painted image, one color - one stone. After printing lithographs stones zashlifovyvayut. What is not done. The images on this litkamnyah.

Papers signed by Dali himself, signatures are real.

All together - as the present.

Deception that is made more lithographs, as stated originally. But this does not mean that the work be forged. Works of these, just to the reality of more than indicated in the catalogs. And besides the police and the fund Dali nobody knows what it is lithography. Moore guilty of no less than Dali.

Publicly, not mentioned anywhere a list seized from Moore's work. And these should, I will note, is not destroyed, as it would with false labor.

P. S. Dali quite deliberately produced extra editions prints during his lifetime. His whole life was set to shock, dubious claims and actions, and narcissism. This is what underpinned the worldwide fame.

P.S.S. For investment to an artist like Dali completely anyway as there are in reality lithographs - 250 (as written on the reprint), 600 (as noted in the catalog) or more. Since the exposure and sales numbering indicates the specific work.

[Евгений]

Сообщение от Wladzislaw

In order to invest in an artist like Dali completely anyway as there are in reality lithographs - 250 (as written on the reprint), 600 (as noted in the catalog) or more more.

This is the reality .. and this is only minuscule information that is on the forgeries Dali, Chagall, etc. the internet .. And all of this esteemed Wladzislaw is one word: fake or shit ...

Сообщение от Eugene

Spanish police seized (November 2009), several dozen fake works of the famous artist Salvador Dali, which were intended for sale in the southern Spanish town of Estepona.
Writes BBCrussian.com, among 80 paintings were confiscated, and 12 originals, stolen, according to Interpol, from Belgium, France and the USA.
Besides paintings, the police found sculptures, lithographs, etchings, cutlery, decorative textiles, as well as fake certificates of authenticity 20 sculptures attributed to the Spanish artist.
For example, a fake statue of an elephant height of three meters intended for sale for $ 1.5 million
Given the evidence, arrested a French citizen, who brought a fake for sale in Spain, but his name has not yet been disclosed.
The police officers became suspicious because, for sale brought the work, the Frenchman has not taken any safety measures.
Salvador Dali died in 1989, leaving a multimillion state the exact cost is difficult to determine, partly because of the existence of numerous forgeries.
In 1999, Spanish police found 10,000 fake Dali lithographs in the house of his assistant and former personal secretary.

Сообщение от Eugene

Fraudsters have used two different schemes of development and implementation of forged works of such masters as Pablo Picasso, Marc Chagall and Andy Warhol, which allowed them to sell thousands of counterfeit prints and other works printed graphics in the United States, Canada, Australia, Japan and Europe. Total revenue from illegal activities amounted to over $ 5,000,000.

Сообщение от Eugene

By that time, quick-witted secretary managed to slap over 10 thousand prints from engravings of his boss and literally deluged with their global market. It is known that El Salvador has always signed his work, but 10 thousand counterfeit plates bore the original signature of the artist! As a result found out, unpredictable artist had before his death, to sign more than 300 thousand blank sheets of paper. With this heritage and took the "resourceful" Peter Moore. Then, at the end of the 90th, he managed to sell only 50 thousand of them, and the remaining pages were so clean.

Сообщение от Eugene

Christine Yubenks (Kristine Eubanks) and Gerald Sullivan (Gerald Sullivan) sold copies printed on a printer of lithographs of famous masters through television auction. Disappointment buyers were about ten thousand people.

[Wladzislaw]

Сообщение от Eugene

But to invest in "lithograph" Dali, Chagall, buying them at Western auctions, online auctions, with the hands is 99%of running into fake ..

You are too pessimistic. If you take eBay, then percentages probably true. Basically a fake, but real work has been exhibited for $ 4-10 thousand. In both cases, there is no need to buy a <!--~ ~-->.

On the other auctions as fakes Dali no more than imitations of other authors. If all the same fear, there are several major auction houses that conduct specialized trades prints (loved all the Christies and Sotheby ).

Dali did also print on natural parchment (usually there is mixed technique, color woodcut, drawing a certain way (shilkografiya?) On top of paints, etc.). Forgery of such an exceptionally costly <!--~ ~-->, not heard. You can invest in such work. However, the price will be different, 1,5-3, as I wrote on the first page, and 3-5 thousand USD per copy, and not particularly well represented in the market.

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To sum up some, if not more discussion going in the topic tampering, information about directories Raisonne Dali:

Estamp.

Löpsinger L. W., Michler R. Salvador Dali: The Catalogue Raisonne of Etchings and Mixed-Media Prints. 1924-1980. 1993. 262 p.
     Prim. Price - 400-500 USD.

Löpsinger L. W., Michler R. Salvador Dali. Catalogue Raisonne of Prints. Vol. II: Lithographs and Wood Engravings, 1956-80. Munich, 1995. 192 p.
    Prim. Price - 200-300 USD.

Field A. The Official Catalog of the Graphic Works of Salvador Dali. 1996. 280 p.
    Prim. price - 500 USD.

Sculpture.

Descharnes R., Descharnes N. Dali. The Hard and the Soft: Spells for the Magic of Form Sculptures & Objects. 2004. 296 p.
English-language edition.

Descharnes R., Descharnes N. Dali. Le Dur et le Mou: Sculptures & Objets. 2004. 288 p.
Francophone edition.

     Prim. price - 100-200 euros.

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Who is interested in information on investing in the work of Dali, placed on the first page - please.

[Евгений]

Сообщение от Eugene

Personally, my opinion is a good investment: the first Stalinist academics (but only during the 1930-1950gg) ...

Simply, it is interesting to remember predictions ..
From site Leonid Shishkin Gallery
"... The great masters of the Soviet period - is also a promising area for investment. Excellent confirmation of the fact - a classic picture of the Soviet Yuri Pimenov's" The Rape of Europe ", exhibited at the Russian auction Sotheby` s, London (June 2010) with the estimate £ 400-600 thousands. This estimeyt several times greater than the amount for which the product was sold two years ago Leonid Shishkin Gallery ... "
Work sold for £ 433250 (EA)

http://www.shishkin-gallery.ru/auction_20100624.html
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 Pimenov Yuri Ivanovich (1903 - 1977) - Soviet painter and graphic artist, popular artist of USSR, a member of the USSR Academy of Arts.
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According to information from the media, now bought a Russian collector, I wonder who? Who has information? write a few words ....
1.Kartina Yuri Pimenov. "Kidnapping of Europe" 87h107 sm.1969 PM

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Сообщение от Eugene

Pimenov Yuri Ivanovich (1903 - 1977) - Soviet painter and graphic artist, popular artist of USSR, a member of the USSR Academy of Arts.

It can hardly be called "the first staliskim academician. He became a full member of the USSR Academy of Arts in 1962, just after in the Khrushchev "thaw".

[Евгений]