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Старый 31.05.2009, 12:09 Язык оригинала: Русский       #31
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Salieri - a craftsman, and Mozart - a genius. Art is inherently irrational, and is not subject to science, and the more pseudoscientific theories ...

As a result, the craftsman (human sciences) Salieri killed a genius (an artist) Mozart ... was a murderer, because he was not given ...



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Старый 31.05.2009, 12:21 Язык оригинала: Русский       #32
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Well, suppose I have not answered, "and cited the words of Pushkin's Salieri's" little tragedy ". Words, incidentally, a negative hero.
I understand that Mozart also enjoyed algebra - notes. The negativity of Salieri is that it does not put up with the genius and easy creations of Mozart. The crocodile ate a parrot for that. that "Udav in parrots longer." If the crocodile knew that the subject of the dispute was not whether he eat it?
    Why are people waving flap and killing a fly thinking. they killed all the flies and make the world schaslivym: to say that in iskussve enough to be a genius - to say nothing. After all, the question remains of many Salieri "I would think so drawn" (about the square of Malevich). And science is needed in order to understand these issues. There are well-known artists who were not just crazy, but from the birth of idiots. It turns out that would be an artist not only the science is not needed, but also brains. In this your understanding of art?



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Старый 31.05.2009, 12:32 Язык оригинала: Русский       #33
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In this your understanding of art?
I have a question?



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Старый 31.05.2009, 12:44 Язык оригинала: Русский       #34
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I understand that Mozart also enjoyed algebra - notes. The negativity of Salieri is that it does not put up with the genius and easy creations of Mozart. The crocodile ate a parrot for that. that "Udav in parrots longer." If the crocodile knew that the subject of the dispute was not whether he eat it? Why are people waving flap and killing a fly thinking. they killed all the flies and make the world schaslivym. To say that iskussve enough to be a genius - to say nothing. After all, the question remains of many Salieri "I would think so drawn" (about the square of Malevich). And science is needed in order to understand these issues. There are well-known artists who were not just crazy, but from the birth of idiots. It turns out that would be an artist not only the science is not needed, but also brains. This your understanding of art?
Not bad compared: a fly and Mozart!

The brain must have all work and always, and people of art in particular ... although part of any quirks they have ahead of them all.
In some works better left hemisphere, the other right ...



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Старый 31.05.2009, 12:45 Язык оригинала: Русский       #35
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I have a question?
    Internet If you can ...



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Not bad compared: a fly and Mozart!
   I've corrected a little. I meant no Mozart, and the arguments that kidayutsya. I believe that a person must be a system of beliefs, worldview, not a collection of aphorisms. Because I would like to talk more consistent and balanced.



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Старый 31.05.2009, 12:59 Язык оригинала: Русский       #36
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I think that a person must be a system of beliefs, worldview, not a collection of aphorisms.
Well, some of the mind is not enough to build a "system of views, have their" world view "...
It remains to use the "aphorisms.
It's me, for example, about yourself, you know ...

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Because I would like to talk more consistent and balanced.
With me, for instance, will hardly be able to "consistently and weighed. : D



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Старый 31.05.2009, 13:36 Язык оригинала: Русский       #37
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. There are well-known artists who were not just crazy, but from the birth of idiots.
And who exactly from the artists was born a moron? About manic-depression, schizophrenia, alcoholism and drug addiction I've heard ... but feeble-minded from birth? Such a person even read and write can not learn, let alone create something ?...

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I understand that Mozart also enjoyed algebra - notes. The negativity of Salieri is that it does not put up with the genius and easy creations of Mozart.
    Why are people waving flap and killing a fly thinking. they killed all the flies and make the world schaslivym: to say that in iskussve enough to be a genius - to say nothing.
That's it, that Mozart used the "notes, they were for him a means of expressing their inner world (the music was in his head), but he did it differently than Salieri," on another, and in this they differ ... and how and why? Salieri this was not to understand ...
     In other circumstances, Salieri, as Hitler (a talentless artist), would destroy these flies - "degenerative" Mozart, along with their "degenerative" creations ... and be reassured! I would be happy!



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Старый 31.05.2009, 13:59 Язык оригинала: Русский       #38
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Well, some of the mind is not enough to build a "system of views, have their" world view "...
It remains to use the "aphorisms.
      Do not take on your account what I said. This is really a question more to the Internet. At one of the sites I began to push his theories, and one I wrote: "Relax, there's no such methanesulphonate this case. ... It went to the Internet for a walk, poprikalyvatsya. Relax ..." You are on such a person does not like. Yes, and this site is also not for приколистов. I understand that in art there must understand more than me. I was just wondering what people think who do art, trade pictures and what values they hold at the same time. Is just hand draw inspiration and then sell it at a higher price ... So excuse me if I'm not in the stream and if you have your thoughts on this. a share.

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And who exactly from the artists was born a moron? About manic-depression, schizophrenia, alcoholism and drug addiction I've heard ... but feeble-minded from birth? Such a person even read and write can not learn, let alone create something ?...
    Such know two: a Japanese artist Kiyoshi Yamashita and his European counterpart Gottfried Mind. First raised in the slums, and in 12 years he was placed in a psychiatric clinic. When the patient brought the paint he tried to eat them like candy. Later, he mastered the brush, and his paintings became very popular - printed on the covers of magazines, an exhibition which was visited by more than one hundred thousand people. Gottfried was born in Bern (Switzerland). Was mentally retarded, but beautifully drawn. to 30-age letnimu famous throughout Europe. One of the paintings even bought the English King George IY. Until his death (at age 46) he remained a helpless child, unable even to serve themselves.
   Did not see their pictures, but the very fact makes us think about many things.



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Старый 31.05.2009, 14:14 Язык оригинала: Русский       #39
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Salieri, as Hitler (a talentless artist), would destroy these flies - "degenerative" Mozart, along with their "degenerative" creations ...
So the legend and destroyed, giving the drink poison.
True Pushkin, he jerked it again: Wait,
Wait, wait! .. You're drunk! .. without me?
(c)



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There I know two: a Japanese artist Kiyoshi Yamashita and his European counterpart Gottfried Mind. First raised in the slums, and in 12 years he was placed in a psychiatric clinic. When the patient brought the paint he tried to eat them like candy. Later, he mastered the brush, and his paintings became very popular - printed on the covers of magazines, an exhibition which was visited by more than one hundred thousand people. Gottfried was born in Bern (Switzerland). Was mentally retarded, but beautifully drawn. to 30-age letnimu famous throughout Europe. One of the paintings even bought the English King George IY. Until his death (at age 46) he remained a helpless child, unable even to serve themselves.
    Two mentally retarded, over which did "experiment" doctors in the mental hospital ... This suggests that many famous artists were idiots?
   Above the chimpanzee and an elephant in a zoo some naughty journalists have also done experiment: given paint and canvas, and then sent photos of the resulting "masterpieces" well-known art. None of them had guessed who the authors, but gave very positive evaluation, one even wrote that we are talking about an unknown Jackson Pollock canvas.

So what?

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Thus, according to legend, and destroyed, giving the drink poison.
True Pushkin, he jerked it again: Wait,
Wait, wait! .. You're drunk! .. without me?
(a)
Salieri was to the same "enthusiast and a fan art ... even wanted to die as Mozart ...



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