Local /international artist

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от mikhael; 2633211 "

Is it profitable to sell to Western collectors , say, Repin , Surikov , Levitan ? .. (well, other Russian realists of the same caliber and the time) .

This is such a joke? <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
First, full finished paintings or Repin , Surikov, let alone the market is not, and if, for example , Repin appear, then there is at Western auctions and sold , as also the " Paris Cafe " in 1875 , sold in the 11th year Christie's for 4.52 million pounds.
Who do you think is the product purchased ?
And would buy it from someone " Western collectors ", etc. b . for that kind of money?
 They are , I think, and do not know this artist . <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

[mikhael]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

First, full finished paintings or Repin , Surikov, nor even on the market simply do not, and if , for example , Repin appear, then there is at Western auctions and sold , as also the " Paris Cafe " 1875 sold in the 11 th year at Christie's for 4.52 million pounds. Who do you think is the product purchased ?

Decent price! .. What we know who bought it? .. I think any fan of Russian art - admit in principle that the buyer does not necessarily Russian .

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

And would buy it from someone " Western collectors ", etc. b . for that kind of money ?

And why not? .. The normal pattern . I've now read about it on the internet. So, in 1916, it has acquired a Swedish collector. Purchased the same! .. And now, I think some " Burzhuin " can be purchased . Maybe for some it's not a lot of money ...

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от mikhael

admit in principle that the buyer does not necessarily Russian.

Tartar?
Jewish?
Chechen?

Or Mordovan?
 
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[mikhael]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Tartar?
Jewish?
Chechen?

Or Mordovan?
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Well, since you do not admit that it could be an American or English? ..
Frenchman or at worst (as Parisian cafe) ...

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от mikhael; 2633281 '

So, in 1916, it has acquired a Swedish collector. Acquired the same ! ..

You have already read , I think that the picture of " Paris Cafe " was acquired in 1916 by the great-grandfather of the present owner, who was personally acquainted with the author .
Moreover, the painting was exhibited at the Salon and the characters represented on it while people are very famous .

Сообщение от mikhael; 2633311 "

Well, since you do not admit that it could be an American or English? .. Or a Frenchman at the worst

My experience gives me the opportunity to suggest that.
And I know that as a result of bargaining between the buyer and the buyer in the room over the phone, and the final winning bid is made ​​the buyer on the phone , which, as always , " wished to remain anonymous ". <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

[mikhael]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky ; 2633321 "

Yes, and this picture is painted by Repin was inspired by the works of the Impressionists and Paris .

That's it! Repin could write and how the Impressionists and how Repin . Want your cafe bohemia , you want boatmen on the Volga. But could write something like Renoir Repin ? <! - ~ 5 ~ ->

I'd like to see the boatmen or Cossacks " by Renoir " !

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от mikhael

That's it! Repin could write and how the Impressionists and how Repin . Want your cafe bohemia , you want boatmen on the Volga. But could write something like Renoir Repin ? <! - ~ 5 ~ ->

I'd like to see the boatmen or Cossacks " by Renoir "!

He remembered the story of Basil Shukshina " Cut off " :
- Cut off his you - tell Gleb.
     - Nothing - generously notice Hleb . - It is helpful . let him think
at your leisure. And that too many take the ...
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[Fed]

Once I was looking through an essay about Ivanov, there is not even alleged that he was an innovator.

In the picture there was no immediacy Ivanov, his desire to "scientific" accuracy has led to the creation of one-one paintings, scale has glorified his backers in the Russian-Italian artists of the 15th century.
"Because of the exhibition paintings - Ivanov wrote - I have concluded that it is more likely can be appreciated by artists, and not the public. Indeed, I myself in it wished to show to what extent the Russian understands the Italian school, in what seems and time ... "

Essay-interest in terms of a thorough coverage of real life at that time, a lot about famous artists and writers.
I even searched for discussion memorable quotes:
He expressed directly futuristic idea, "arts of our time must be imbued with the ideas of a new civilization - he said - be istolkovatelnitsey them. Raphael Connect the equipment to the ideas of a new civilization - that is the art at the present time." These thoughts Ivanov failed to attach to the case, on the work of its nearly not affected the new things that he promised a painting. "
"My work - the big picture - more and more drops in my eyes - Ivanov wrote in 1855. - Far left us living in 1855, in the thinking of our"

"I hate long Petersburg with its Academy of Fine Arts, - he once wrote to his father. - I am happy I will, if handled my affairs so as to never see this city. I am quite sure that my best position is now (in Italy) and that on his return to the fatherland I will be a martyr. "

Criticism: "us in her eyes red, mottled, unpleasant to the eye color, the more puzzling is that, as you know, at one time the artist was much concerned about the colors, finding that they particularly like the Russian public, and carefully studied the XVI century colorists . As mentioned above, the picture is, in addition, has not been given to the overall tone, which further hurts the overall experience.
Immediately struck unpleasantly strange whitish colors, conspicuous predominance of red color of all shades, the viewer, have heard so much about the painting, still looking at her good looks - and does not find it. In general, the performance suffers from the lack of ease and virtuosity - these essential characteristics of the perfect work of art. All the great mass of work and effort spent by the artist, is not hidden from the viewer, it's all here and there, it is striking, striking, surprising, but the picture does not cause delight, not raises, the overall impression is cold, devoid of integrity, the viewer's attention is scattered is broken, could not help focusing from the outset on the particulars. "

[mikhael]

Сообщение от Fed; 2633471 "

I once looked through the essay about Ivanov , there is not even alleged that he was an innovator .

So while I'm not saying that he is an innovator . Not every good artist is an innovator . His painting " The Appearance of Christ to the people ," I myself do not particularly enjoy . But he did not fixated on it ( as much as 20 years) . This, I think , prevented the full reveal his talent.

[Fed]

Сообщение от mikhael; 2633121 "

If you tell me the Western " counterparts " , "Walking on Water" , I 'll just grateful. a true masterpiece .

There's a thumbnail sketch of what may be analogues have any markings ?

Сообщение от mikhael; 2633121 "

Naked boys on the shore of the Bay of Naples - perfect harmony pattern (that is the real " Russian Space Art »!

I understand the thrust of Art in beautiful words , but not to obessmyslivaniyu . And then the Russian Space Art ?
And work -Roman imitation, just a blatant example .