Продано: Saryan, 2 work, the Egyptian period

[uriart]

Alenka, a granddaughter, not only granddaughter of a famous grandfather.
She is the director of the House Museum of M. Saryan, Yerevan.
And the photo is sent to me to attribute my work. Unfortunately the work was not Saryan.
And the forum more than once raised the topic of trade in fakes.
Naturally to expose all the fakes and set the wall of the incompetence of experts who take money for their expertise and
it does not have the concept of attribution. For what they get paid? For something that fakes have lived and continue?
Wrong!
Must falshaki put up for review to all and thus stop their turnover in the market.

[luka77]

Indeed, lawlessness
 
and thus, perhaps, leaving hundreds of thousands if not millions of $ $ $ to buy outright falshaka, the guise of "expert opinions" (where even the naked eye and everything is clear)

poor customers, in fact, check everything yourself before you buy 10 thousand times ..

[SAH]

Сообщение от luka77

poor buyers

 Seven times measure once cut it.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от luka77

poor buyers

Wealthy buyers.

[Samvel]

Сообщение от Alenka

Th two work Saryan (not sold), not whether they, too, to send her granddaughter ... In all of this, the granddaughter of course Saryan, but not the same Martiros (but this is so, thinking aloud). There is a wonderful thing - is called the chemical analysis of ...

 Dear Alenka, except for chem. analysis, there are many wonderful things (factors) on examination of paintings by M. Saryan, which is not you, not the "aces" on a fake not vkurse. I want one of these secrets to reveal, to the master of fake paintings unnecessarily labored . The fact that Martiros s1907 to 1914 led the notebook-diary detailing down on all of its sold and donated works, so that no new unknown paintings of this period, when they appear, not one expert was not respecting yourself affirms.
P.S. You exhibited works, among saryanovskih falshakov can occupy high places .

[мистер-у]

Сообщение от Alenka

No, not for half a day. Paboty were offered for sale some time ago. Today, it is confirmed and closed the deal.
Thank you.

Good work is not stale even in a crisis .....
Your concerns - it is your mind .... And to prove the contrary, foaming at the mouth, I'm not going, because I respect the views and collectors and experts. I do not have any intention "vtyuhivat bullshit", and I think that the intuition of a good idea to add the technical means available to us, thanks to progress in the 21 century. Categorically inferences based only on intuition, cause a smile .... Forgive .....

You Alenka good and this work is not and can not mozhet.A respected people just express their bewilderment seen and napisannomu.Ne litter please with garbage forum.Idite for example on the hammer or Ebey

[Евгений]

Сообщение от Alenka

The fact that the experts confirmed the authenticity, and I trust their opinion? Since then, they are experts on what I understand!

By "expert" I. Lomize
".... Also in the catalog (Catalog fakes) carried an interview of one of the biggest collectors in Russia, Alfa Bank president Pyotr Aven, which he gave the publisher of the directory also collector Vladimir Roshchin. The essence of it in blunt accusation Russian experts and Russian antique dealers in the uncleanliness and corruption. "I believe that we should not hesitate to name names - says Peter Aven, - Here are the experts GTG Valyaeva or Lomize. They are very few people trust.............."
http://www.kommersant.ru/doc.aspx?Do...6&ThemesID=183
Here's another fake with the "expertise" I. Lomize

Сообщение от Oleg Nazarov

That's a fake Saryan with original papers from the State Tretyakov Gallery .... signature too real .... weak odd job, can be seen as zastaren canvas etc. ...
I saw her in the 2008m, but probably now somewhere wandering hand

[ВЯЧЕСЛАВ]

It would be nice to all participants in the discussion refresher Rules of ad sales (read all!)
It clearly says to the seller: When placing information on the sale of paintings, be prepared to ensure that other forum members may ask you to produce documentary evidence of attribution and provenance.
There is a potential buyer for: critical information can be discussed in private correspondence.
Why not think up the wheel - follow the rules and everything will be properly and without resentment.
 Given the above outrage like "Just can not understand, what is mine is a lie?" The fact that the experts confirmed the authenticity, and I trust their opinion? Since then, they are experts at what I mean! Or is the conclusion of the participants this forum of priority, are undeniable and above expert opinions. " seems inappropriate and disrespectful to the forum participants took part in the discussion put on sale kartonov.Tem more of their arguments in opposition to you only spell on someone is held ekspertize.Da and speed in the announcement of the sale are not in favor of authenticity, but rather speaks of your desire stop you also generate discussion (non-compliance with the Rules of sale)

[Tana]

I also agreed that if the work is questionable or if anyone has information on these works it should be voiced, but how else to fight in falshakami if the work is authentic, that, too, become clear.
Because the position of Alenka is like this:
"And I that, I do, that's the picture about to conclude, I am not an expert, so trust the conclusion does not want (do not like it, do not take) and generally all been sold --
nd as something it reminds me of, but do not have to sin to Russian mintalitet, believe me, if it comes to money (especially a lot of money), mintalitet all becomes the same (otherwise we would have been now all in a big crisis )

Remember the ad for the sale of paintings "Buy now Oleg Tselkov"
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...631#post714631
great theme!!

Just think that people should understand that he sells (this is after reading several topics on the sale of Alenka, the feeling that a totally random people, well not quite have the same idea of what sells, such as a theme:
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=56131
(generally too amusing conversation turned)


I think that discussion is very necessary forum and many thanks to all the participants, all who help us to learn from more who shares his knowledge, information (I think Alenka will agree with me, too).

[luka77]

Interestingly, as Lomize happens on the site? What's her nickname? A-oo-oo-oo-oo-oo!! heed