Contemporary art of Ukraine (without revolution)

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от noart

"favorite artist Viktor Yushchenko" and not far from Damien Hirst

Nichchego not understand!

Сообщение от noart

This says it all

It is not clear and did not say .. (Who thinks clearly, he clearly sets out!)

[noart]

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

Nichchego not understand!


For gifted explain


It is not clear and did not say .. (Who thinks clearly, he clearly sets out!)

Ivan Marchuk - favorite artist Yushchenko - Is that clear?
Just as you think you got to this rating Marchuk? ON CHEYTO patronage - Whose coattails think you already can guess))
Surely not you think that Marchuk who knew where the suit this rating?
And as you the fact - the whole of Russia and Ukraine - 3 people )))))
And the British and Americans 61 %))))

[SAH]

Сообщение от noart

you have not guessed what I have ))))))) price no matter what is not

Congratulations
noart, with a great price!

[noart]

Сообщение от SAH

Congratulations
noart, with a great price!

 

Do not cling to the words.

[gans]

Сообщение от Posav

Well, why not? I've been thinking that may actually be bogus for auction

I believe that such things should not be heard without proof, because you can tell a lot here for a moment, the entire site is built on the results of the auction sales. And even if we consider that no serious gallery did not cooperate with noart th, then the picture is completely, so myself, petty revenge psevdohudozhnika.
"Oh, Моська! Know she is strong,
       What barks at the elephant! "

[dedulya37]

Сообщение от gans

psevdohudozhnika.

psevdohudozhnik=no art

[NATA NOVA]

Who? Why do not you know? "Show the face, noart!

[Posav]

Сообщение от gans

I believe that such things should not be heard without proof, because you can tell a lot. Here, for a moment, the whole site is built on the results of auction sales. And even if we consider that no serious gallery did not cooperate with noart th, then the picture is completely, so myself, petty revenge psevdohudozhnika. "[/COLOR]

Suppose somebody bought my grandmother an antique painting for 1-2 thousand dollars. Changed the frame and exposed it for 15 thousand. But bad luck, no one takes. He bought it himself for 18000. Spent Monthly commission, but the plan is working on. A year later, he exposes it for 20000. The people remembered and pecked "the same work buying, it makes money!" klyunuvshy and buys it at auction, for example, 22000 thousand. This can happen with the work of the artist "planted on the contract." Is it not possible?
And that, noart artist? Well, and with Van Gogh and other Impressionists gallery would not work. Where to see the work noart? Coordinates can be in lichku.

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от Posav

And that, noart artist? Well, and with Van Gogh and other Impressionists gallery would not work. Where to see the work noart? Coordinates can be in lichku.

Rboty in the studio!

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Сообщение от gans

I think that such things should not be heard without evidence,

Incidentally,
gans, Although I am a new man, a picture emerges when the unsubstantiated statements are the norm.
Examples: AleksanrG (name. The auction, the picture and the price was not mentioned (tam. where expensive guitars McCartney was sold to his picture of the artist);
Gapchinskoy pictures from Sotheby's (and Vogue, where the printed works so no one saw the pictures Sotbisovskih also unknown. and the rumors are repeated regularly ..) and the London gallery where her exhibition was also there ..

 It seems that this kind of bluff, part of the technology "promotion"? But then it is hopelessly out of date ....
(Whatever your word remains forever in and declined as well, regardless of your desire)

Why is no one catches your eye? Is it morally clean?
(I hope at seminars on rodvizheniyu this is not taught)
Technology with fictitious sales have long worked the same ...

[LCR]

Сообщение от Posav

Suppose a man bought my grandmother an antique painting for 1-2 thousand dollars. Changed the frame and exposed it for 15000 thousand. But bad luck, no one takes. He bought it himself for 18000. Spent Monthly commission, but the plan is working on. A year later, he exposes it for 20000. The people remembered and pecked "the same work buying, it makes money!" klyunuvshy and buys it at auction, for example, 22000 thousand. This can happen with the work of the artist "planted on the contract." Is it not possible?
And that, noart artist? Well, and with Van Gogh and other Impressionists gallery would not work. Where to see the work noart? Coordinates can be in lichku.

So this way: by buying it for 18000, he paid about 2700 (12%commission + other expenses).
Now his picture had cost him in, say, 1500 +2700=4200.

More: selling it for 22000, he again pays, now about 3300, and therefore, the picture should he have 4200 +3300 = 7500.

But most importantly: where is the guarantee that he will not have to buy out his picture and the second and third time?
Because in anticipation of a sweet moment when the picture will buy, he will have to find money for multiple samovykup this picture of an increasingly high price .

Such a technique exists. But it applies, of course, in the case when there is not a random pattern, and a significant number of works by one artist.
The works are put up for sale and redeemed by the owner (in practice - his partners), the auction creates a precedent, then the merry company gets rid of all the existing works, and there - come what may.


You should not grateful to me to urge - all wrong!

Let's start again:

After selling his image of himself, as he paid the seller, as I said, 2700.
But he had to fork out, and as a buyer, but this is serious:
25%commission - and that's not counting other costs (transmission, perhaps, VAT), ie 4500.
Picture costing him in 1500 +2700 +4500=8700 - is to start.

Then he sells it for 22000 ... itself (the other there were no volunteers - it happens). What do we have a duck?

Costs seller - 15%= 3300
Buyer's Expenses - 25%= 5500.

Cost increases picture: 1500 +2700 +4500 +3300 +5500 = 17500.

Now, he must have sold at least thousands of 30000, and preferably not himself, and some other fool

But in any case, he may find comfort in the fact that the price for it now is growing, and now instead of some garbage he has a darling picture!