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Marta · 13-02-2010, 15:31

Here's an interesting article about idioms.
http://www.neplaneta.ru/zagadka_sfinksa.shtml

NATA NOVA · 13-02-2010, 16:16

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Originally Posted by Marta

Here's an interesting article about idioms.
http://www.neplaneta.ru/zagadka_sfinksa.shtml

Thank you, Martha, but my PC would not let go .. (dangerous, he said ..)

Marta · 13-02-2010, 18:51

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Thank you, Martha, but my PC would not let go .. (dangerous, said ..)

Strange. I have all normal.
Well here, the same author, if you have the strength to read (large text)

http://www.platinumpath.net/links/abra.htm

The point is that the author connects the origin of many Russian idioms with "broken telephone" with the Arabs. Why do so - do not understand. Do not dig deep enough enthusiasm.

Pecheneg · 13-02-2010, 22:24

Marta
The point is that the author connects the origin of many Russian idioms with "broken telephone" with the Arabs. Why do so - do not understand. Do not dig deep enough enthusiasm.

Kef (Russian)-derived from the Arabic. kayf «idleness, rest. Russian. You're not relaxing occurs at the beginning of the XIX century, the form kicks - with the second half of the XIX century.

Here are some idioms Russian-Ukrainian:

Only himself to blame - Bachili Ochi, scho kupuvali, їжте, hoch povilazte. (Ukrainian) (Did you see his eyes, what to buy, eat at least get out.)

A black cat ran - Glek beat (Ukr) (Pots stoned.)

To happiness - who the bad weather .- To Vesillja and куркі death. (Ukr) (Who's wedding, and the chicken's death.)

Причал · 13-02-2010, 22:44

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(Who's wedding, and the chicken's death.)

Simply a masterpiece

Admin · 14-02-2010, 11:02

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The point is that the author connects the origin of many Russian idioms with "broken telephone" with the Arabs. Why do so - do not understand. Do not dig deep enough enthusiasm.

The fact that Nikolai Vashekevich - a well-known scholar-Arabist. He promotes his bold theory developed so-called "noopolya, manager Being. According Vashkevich, to transfer information in noopole used two ethnic languages: Arabic and Russian. And these languages are also the "system language of the brain, as well as the essential foundation of all other languages in the world.

Here are a couple of quotations from Vashkevich:

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We are all specialists and linguists, and people of other professions are accustomed to consider language as an essential means of communication. Multi-language research led me to another conclusion. Language is not only and not so much a means of communication as a cybernetic machine, through which is controlled not only the human community, not just individual ethnic groups and even individuals, but also the whole of life, including human physiology, wildlife, and even vegetation. Biblical phrase at the beginning was the word - not a metaphor.

If the idea is not new, in any case it is close to many believers, the mechanism, specific device language code that controls the life, remained unknown to.

Naturally, in order to reveal the mechanisms of governance, we must examine the language. The strangest thing in the language is that words (non-derivative) have no meaning, nothing. It seems that they randomly glued to things. Even scientific linguistics expressed this state of things with the words "no linguistics never answer the question why water is called water. Meanwhile, meaningless words do not exist. Just their meaning is hidden from direct observation. The question, as it turned out, is easily solved. Must indistinct words - still a language - written in Arabic characters and look at sensible Arabic dictionary.

The concept of protolanguage is quite appropriate since both are explained and neologisms. Moreover, it seems, without exception.

The study found that the brain, like any computer, working on special system languages, blocked for obvious reasons, from the user. However, analysis of the available linguistic facts can reveal the speaker system and, therefore, to remove the information from the system files of the brain. As it turned out, as the system language, our subconscious uses language pair: the real Arabic and Russian languages, regardless of our ethnicity. Host computer is connected to noopolyu (artificial analogue of the Internet), which is constantly fed by the morphology of the really existing ethnic groups: Russian and Arabic.

From the preface to the book by NN Vashkevich "System speaker of the brain"

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It is a fact that any Russian word or phrase (idiom), has no motivation in Russian, explained through the Arabic language, its roots. Arab unmotivated words and phrases are explained through the Russian language. All non-motivated words and expressions of other languages will eventually go back to the Russian or Arabic. And it is no matter of history or of geography.

There is no exception, etymology obtained laconic, in the corridor axiomatic. Thus, forty in Arabic means "thief", despite the fact that no bird of this word in Arabic is not indicated. Thus, the borrowing can not speak.

In the search for etymological solutions revealed that people did not invent a language, but language shapes people and not only, but the whole system under the name of Organic Life. It turned out that the words that we use for communication are at the same time, elements of the programs for which the evolution of life from the organelles in plant cells to human communities and that govern the behavior of any biological object, as well as processes, including physiological, social or even natural.

By virtue of the verbal programs, periodic law discovered by DI Mendeleev, extends far beyond chemistry and even includes the ethnic groups, which are distributed on the lingual-ethnic table like chemical elements, so that there are correlations between the first and second.

In particular Russian ethnos corresponds to hydrogen, and Arabic - helium. This correspondence is apparent in numbers, place in the table, the mutual structure and function. Russian and Arabic languages form a single linguistic system, which is the core of all languages, and like the sun, consisting of hydrogen and helium, and which provides the physical world, forms the "semantic sun, giving the non-physical world, allowing to distinguish between things of the spiritual world and reveal all the secrets of the Universe .

NN Vashekevich, "Codes of the Republic of Armenia"

NN Vashekevich is the author of several books and dictionaries, in particular - a large "Dictionary of etymological and hidden values.

Links for those interested:

site NN Vashkevich
Books Vashkevich
Selected idioms (A-D) (a large "Dictionary of etymological and hidden values")

NATA NOVA · 14-02-2010, 11:26

Marta and Admin-Admin, thanks for Vashkevich!

I still recalled the one color: "black dog"
"brown plague" and "yellow press" (both, probably, "tracing paper with the unknown"

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Kef (Russian)-derived from the Arabic. kayf «idleness, rest. Russian. You're not relaxing occurs at the beginning of the XIX century,

Remembered stariinoe word "bury" (lose) is decent (used to be)
I met him in Russian literature (do not remember anyone from the classics, must search)
Absolutely fascinating:
bury
This word has a value "crossed out and destroy anything," derived from the ancient name of the letter "x", which in former times was called "dick". This name represents a reduction from an even older name of this letter - "cherub. Literal meaning - "to give up, run through the cross" - is due to a cruciform configuration of the letter "x".
(from the dictionary Krylova)

Marta · 16-02-2010, 02:15

Stupid like a cork - bad jak bot (white) (bad as boots)
Sees eye tooth so itching to do it .- Bachyts VOCA, Ale lyazhyts high. (White) (see eye, but is high)
Two boots - pair. Aboe-raboe (Bel) (both - rippling)
That is true --Maecha Racyja
in livers sit - peraestsi vatroby (overeat inside (white))
Drunkenness - shklyany god (Bel) (glass god)

NATA NOVA · 03-03-2010, 02:04

What kind of nonsense? (shows up in the blog) I think the perfect nonsense, but maybe this new term, unknown to me?

Pecheneg · 03-03-2010, 02:55

NATA NOVA[I] What nonsense? (shows up in the blog) I think the perfect nonsense, but may be a new term, unknown to me?

meaning of the word Zaum of Ephraim:
Zaum - Excessive, unnecessary sophistication, something incapable of understanding smb.

The value of the word Zaum Ozhegova:
Zaum - Something abstruse, nonsense

Great Soviet Encyclopedia
Zaum, abstruse language, the notion put forward by theorists of Russian Futurism in the early 1920's. The term "Z." entered poet Velimir Khlebnikov. He tried to discover the general laws of the direct interdependence of sound and meaning, and basing on them, create a new poetic language, on which not gravitated to "everyday meaning of the word - the language," a country outside of the mind. " Usually, Z. understand only poetic experiments of the Russian Futurists (V. Khlebnikov, A. Kruchenykh, B. Kamensky and others).

13-02-2010, 22:24	Original language: Russian #24
Pecheneg Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,336 Thanks: 3,092 Thanked 3,710 Times in 961 Posts Reputation: 7412	Corner linguist. Idioms, phrases, and etymology of the stable Marta The point is that the author connects the origin of many Russian idioms with "broken telephone" with the Arabs. Why do so - do not understand. Do not dig deep enough enthusiasm. Kef (Russian)-derived from the Arabic. kayf «idleness, rest. Russian. You're not relaxing occurs at the beginning of the XIX century, the form kicks - with the second half of the XIX century. Here are some idioms Russian-Ukrainian: Only himself to blame - Bachili Ochi, scho kupuvali, їжте, hoch povilazte. (Ukrainian) (Did you see his eyes, what to buy, eat at least get out.) A black cat ran - Glek beat (Ukr) (Pots stoned.) To happiness - who the bad weather .- To Vesillja and куркі death. (Ukr) (Who's wedding, and the chicken's death.)

03-03-2010, 02:04	Original language: Russian #29
NATA NOVA Гуру Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 5,736 Thanks: 8,058 Thanked 4,382 Times in 2,259 Posts Blog Entries: 2 Reputation: 8507	"anthology of sales" What kind of nonsense? (shows up in the blog) I think the perfect nonsense, but maybe this new term, unknown to me?

13-02-2010, 15:31	Original language: Russian #21
Marta Guest Posts: n/a	Here's an interesting article about idioms. http://www.neplaneta.ru/zagadka_sfinksa.shtml

16-02-2010, 02:15	Original language: Russian #28
Marta Guest Posts: n/a	Stupid like a cork - bad jak bot (white) (bad as boots) Sees eye tooth so itching to do it .- Bachyts VOCA, Ale lyazhyts high. (White) (see eye, but is high) Two boots - pair. Aboe-raboe (Bel) (both - rippling) That is true --Maecha Racyja in livers sit - peraestsi vatroby (overeat inside (white)) Drunkenness - shklyany god (Bel) (glass god)

03-03-2010, 02:55	Original language: Russian #30
Pecheneg Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,336 Thanks: 3,092 Thanked 3,710 Times in 961 Posts Reputation: 7412	NATA NOVA[I] What nonsense? (shows up in the blog) I think the perfect nonsense, but may be a new term, unknown to me? meaning of the word Zaum of Ephraim: Zaum - Excessive, unnecessary sophistication, something incapable of understanding smb. The value of the word Zaum Ozhegova: Zaum - Something abstruse, nonsense Great Soviet Encyclopedia Zaum, abstruse language, the notion put forward by theorists of Russian Futurism in the early 1920's. The term "Z." entered poet Velimir Khlebnikov. He tried to discover the general laws of the direct interdependence of sound and meaning, and basing on them, create a new poetic language, on which not gravitated to "everyday meaning of the word - the language," a country outside of the mind. " Usually, Z. understand only poetic experiments of the Russian Futurists (V. Khlebnikov, A. Kruchenykh, B. Kamensky and others).