Education and academic quality, for and against

[iside]

Сообщение от Marta

But in general, the school - is the base, without her in the fine arts, at least, there is a chance for units. But in the creative destiny of all the school decides not to, and continuous self-improvement and self, an eternal search, the eternal desire

Well, at least some of the artists said it.
And it turns out that all should learn and improve, and the artist was born with a brush in his hands and the whole world should revolve around him.

[LCR]

Сообщение от iside

And what have we? Catherine Tar, which makes his reputation by talking about shit.

Please do not be so, iside, you stand more of this. Leave such arguments to those who have not and can not be others.

In Tar - which has, like everyone, there are drawbacks, in Russia there are curators, as Marina Loshak (brilliant!), Vitaly Patsukov, Andrei Erofeev, Alexander Obukhov, and many others.

[Самвел]

Сообщение от Semen Semenovich

today. unfortunately. production system and the people there are distinguished not by skill and merit, and the degree of proximity to those who can give such titles ...

It is today, ie as I understand the past 25-30 years, after 80 . I think the title of a member of the Soviet Union, it is very worthy of the title, and how much I do not vstrechval-be artists members of this organization, they were very deserving artists (in my opinion), then something would be to them, it was necessary to go through a lot of tests, and no approximate, could not help. Artists of this generation, most of them in the future will vostrebovanny.Ya think so. Soon the whole policy of the type of socialist realism, fade from these paintings, cartons, and will remain pure art.

[Buscador]

Сообщение от AlexanderG

Education and academic quality, the pros and cons

Actually reasons against I can not find. But after for is a colon followed by not only "teaching the light, and darkness are not scientists, but also look into the book - see fig ... Because the education itself provides only a base for movement to the infinite heights of perfection (in painting, including!).
"When I look at pictures of old masters, you feel like a dwarf next to them ..."
"When you try to faithfully follow the great masters, you see that at certain moments they are deeply immersed in the reality ...."
"You have to know the craft, rukomeslo, then the path is not sobeshsya ...."
Really like it is said ...

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Сообщение от Peter

Quite a lot of fans who do not have school on their shoulders trying to reach the audience

Yes, the disease "selfishness" and "self-congratulation, many are not clear. Still, better to be than to seem ...

[AlexanderG]

Сообщение от Buscador

Actually causes against I can not find.

Ia uze gde-to pisal, amerikantsy brosili lozung: "Education kills creativity"
Obrazovanie ubivaet tvorchestvo. I paru pokolenii "hudoznikov" (ne vse) vyrosli rukovodstvuias' etim.

Segodnia my pozinaem plody.

[Posav]

Сообщение от AlexanderG

Ia uze gde-to pisal, amerikantsy brosili lozung: "Education kills creativity"
Obrazovanie ubivaet tvorchestvo. I paru pokolenii "hudoznikov" (ne vse) vyrosli rukovodstvuias' etim.

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All right, but they make it creative, prints and installations. But in the figurative, more or less proportional to the painting without proper education (skills) to do nothing.

[AlexanderG]

Сообщение от Posav

All right, but they make it creative, prints and installations. But in the figurative, more mene proportional painting without proper education (skills) to do nothing.

Soglasen, a problemy nachinaiutsia, kogda voznikaiut popytki postavit ' "kreativ" v odin riad so shkol'noi zivopis'iu.

[Posav]

Сообщение от AlexanderG

popytki postavit ' "kreativ" v odin riad so shkol'noi zivopis'iu.

Perhaps more accurately with the realistic. While, for example, in fact, the idea of the work can be creative, and to form a realistic performance.
You can think of another proverb, for example. "lack of education or skills - the possibility of being killed. For example, I can and would like to write a panoramic multi-figure composition, all in motion, the horses rushing ... but think about how hard it is, a long time and I refuse .

[Peter]

Сообщение от Posav

"lack of education or skills - the possibility of being killed.

Absolutely concise and clear language.

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Сообщение от Marta

Another thing is that the artist - not machine. There and failures, and bad periods. Therefore, the issue price for the work, as discussed here in another forum, is of considerable importance.

 And the "easel painting" is not from etogo.Vot-old bike. "Complains a young artist, I write every day for the picture, and then sell them for a year, what to do? Old meter responds, and you write now for a year and sell it for one day. "

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от AlexanderG

Soglasen, a problemy nachinaiutsia, kogda voznikaiut popytki postavit ' "kreativ" v odin riad so shkol'noi zivopis'iu.

And "art school" is creative .. ( "genius" is sometimes called) ...