Вернуться   Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство > English forum > Buy / Sell > Sell
 English | Русский Forum ARTinvestment.RU RSS Регистрация Дневники Справка Сообщество Сообщения за день Поиск

Sell Sale of artworks.

Ответ
 
Опции темы Опции просмотра
Старый 05.12.2009, 00:19 Язык оригинала: Русский       #21
Старожил
 
Регистрация: 02.09.2008
Сообщений: 700
Спасибо: 222
Поблагодарили 484 раз(а) в 201 сообщениях
Репутация: 861
По умолчанию

I heard about this show, and I know the opinion of many works that were causing confusion specialists Ukrainy.Na opinion of one expert, who was the organizer of the exhibition, you know Jacob, who I mean impossible to judge the authenticity of Wrubel, although I did not oprovergayu.Nuzhna only a comprehensive examination of SRM and Grabar.
Several years ago I was invited to Kiev for the exhibition of works I.K.Ayvazovskogo.Ochen questionable work was rather part of them.
All these pictures were in the catalog vystavki.U they believed that if the work was on show and appeared in the catalog, it is perfect, but for me it has no significance.



мистер-у вне форума   Ответить с цитированием
Старый 05.12.2009, 00:38 Язык оригинала: Русский       #22
Бывалый
 
Регистрация: 02.12.2009
Адрес: Украина
Сообщений: 491
Спасибо: 317
Поблагодарили 412 раз(а) в 145 сообщениях
Репутация: 838
По умолчанию

Цитата:
Сообщение от Mr-y Посмотреть сообщение
I heard about this show, and I know the opinion of many works that caused bewilderment specialists Ukrainy.Na opinion of one expert, who was the organizer of the exhibition, you know Jacob, who I mean impossible to judge authenticity of Vrubel, although I did not oprovergayu.Nuzhna only a comprehensive examination of SRM and Grabar.
Several years ago I was invited to Kiev for the exhibition of works I.K.Ayvazovskogo.Ochen questionable work was rather part of them.
All these pictures were in the catalog vystavki.U they believed that if the work was on show and appeared in the catalog, it is perfect, but for me it has no significance.
I can guess about what the exhibition was held in Kiev in 2002, you pishite.Eta same work has never been in Kiev, I was referring to was another show in another gorode.A to RM, etc. You are absolutely right but where we are and where .... ...




Последний раз редактировалось яков; 05.12.2009 в 00:50.
яков вне форума   Ответить с цитированием
Старый 05.12.2009, 01:01 Язык оригинала: Русский       #23
Guest
 
Сообщений: n/a
По умолчанию

Watercolor-horosha.Oformlenie - sootvetstvuet.Vrubel? Do examination. Of course we must think where and who, in order not to throw dengi.I so that no questions, try nothing is glued, and generally at least vmeshatelstva.A if there - captures all of foto.Udachi for sale.



  Ответить с цитированием
Этот пользователь сказал Спасибо за это полезное сообщение:
яков (05.12.2009)
Старый 05.12.2009, 01:19 Язык оригинала: Русский       #24
Гуру
 
Аватар для Кирилл Сызранский
 
Регистрация: 26.07.2008
Адрес: РФ, Самара
Сообщений: 75,397
Спасибо: 27,867
Поблагодарили 55,330 раз(а) в 24,283 сообщениях
Записей в дневнике: 133
Репутация: 102390
Отправить сообщение для Кирилл Сызранский с помощью Skype™
По умолчанию

Цитата:
Сообщение от yaks Посмотреть сообщение
sketch painting
A sketch of a church mural? Known? Is that a sketch of the painting of the Vladimir Cathedral in Kiev?



Кирилл Сызранский вне форума   Ответить с цитированием
Старый 05.12.2009, 01:32 Язык оригинала: Русский       #25
Местный
 
Аватар для Сергей Кит
 
Регистрация: 20.11.2009
Сообщений: 112
Спасибо: 163
Поблагодарили 120 раз(а) в 46 сообщениях
Репутация: 240
По умолчанию

Цитата:
Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky Посмотреть сообщение
A sketch of a church mural? Known? Is that a sketch of the painting of the Vladimir Cathedral in Kiev? Or earlier, 1884-85 gg., Cyril ibid.?
Works Vrubel in Vladimir's Cathedral in there but the ornaments in the aisles. His sketches of "grave crying," "Resurrection", "Descent of the Holy. spirit, "" Angel "had not been implemented. Why they have not, still not entirely clear. According to some sources - were rejected, as inconsistent with the spirit of Orthodoxy, and too unusual in form, on the other - the artist himself was late in submitting sketches and they were not even considered. Whatever - it is difficult to imagine a neighborhood schimi on the walls, even with compositions Vasnetsov, not to mention the salon artists we reduce the risks and Kotarbinskom, who also participated in the design of the cathedral. We Vrubel the sketches was a real sense of the monumental, the style - but it is his style, uniquely ori ginalny, and probably Prahov not mistaken, saying that his designs would have to build a cathedral and "absolutely in a particular style."
 The artist himself does not seem too hard for experienced failure with the sketches. And he did - it was important for him, and that will be created with a nym, no longer seemed so important.



Сергей Кит вне форума   Ответить с цитированием
Эти 2 пользователя(ей) сказали Спасибо Сергей Кит за это полезное сообщение:
Sandro (05.12.2009)
Старый 05.12.2009, 01:52 Язык оригинала: Русский       #26
Гуру
 
Аватар для Кирилл Сызранский
 
Регистрация: 26.07.2008
Адрес: РФ, Самара
Сообщений: 75,397
Спасибо: 27,867
Поблагодарили 55,330 раз(а) в 24,283 сообщениях
Записей в дневнике: 133
Репутация: 102390
Отправить сообщение для Кирилл Сызранский с помощью Skype™
По умолчанию

Sergey Kit, I wrote a-sketch.
Цитата:
Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky Посмотреть сообщение
Is that a sketch of the painting Vladimir Cathedral in Kiev?
I mean that his work on the murals know.
And this sketch
Цитата:
Сообщение от Sergei Keith Посмотреть сообщение
"Resurrection»
Vrubel was cut into pieces, a few parts in 1889-th year.
Sketches for paintings Vladimir's Cathedral are in the State Tretyakov Gallery, KMRI, the Museum-Estate "Abramtsevo.



Кирилл Сызранский вне форума   Ответить с цитированием
Старый 05.12.2009, 02:11 Язык оригинала: Русский       #27
Местный
 
Аватар для Сергей Кит
 
Регистрация: 20.11.2009
Сообщений: 112
Спасибо: 163
Поблагодарили 120 раз(а) в 46 сообщениях
Репутация: 240
По умолчанию

Cyril Syzransky,
so I agree with you and do not argue, and in any case not hinting that you do not know, I just wrote the above in detail, a couple of posts ago that the work is similar to the [FONT="Arial Black"]sketch[/FONT «grave crying"



Сергей Кит вне форума   Ответить с цитированием
Старый 05.12.2009, 02:16 Язык оригинала: Русский       #28
Гуру
 
Аватар для Кирилл Сызранский
 
Регистрация: 26.07.2008
Адрес: РФ, Самара
Сообщений: 75,397
Спасибо: 27,867
Поблагодарили 55,330 раз(а) в 24,283 сообщениях
Записей в дневнике: 133
Репутация: 102390
Отправить сообщение для Кирилл Сызранский с помощью Skype™
По умолчанию

Цитата:
Сообщение от Sergei Keith Посмотреть сообщение
that the work is similar to the sketch of "funeral lament»
About a Tombstone crying you talking about? From a meeting?
What I saw-from GTG-ABSOLUTELY does not seem close to nothing at all.



Кирилл Сызранский вне форума   Ответить с цитированием
Старый 05.12.2009, 02:29 Язык оригинала: Русский       #29
Местный
 
Аватар для Сергей Кит
 
Регистрация: 20.11.2009
Сообщений: 112
Спасибо: 163
Поблагодарили 120 раз(а) в 46 сообщениях
Репутация: 240
По умолчанию

Цитата:
Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky Посмотреть сообщение
About a Tombstone crying you talking about? From a meeting? In KMRI 4 variants of Wailing, and Abramtsevo one.
What I saw-from GTG-ABSOLUTELY does not seem close to nothing at all.
Цитата:
Сообщение от Sergey Keith Посмотреть сообщение
Scenes alleged murals Vrubel developed in several different ways. «Tombstone crying» (Our Lady of the body of Christ) has four options, different composition. The first - against the backdrop of the distant landscape: the sky with floating clouds, the disk of the setting sun, silhouettes of poplars. Perhaps the landscape is suggested overlooking the Dnieper, the opening up of Andrew's Cathedral, where the artist lived. The latter landscape background corrected, two figures inscribed in a semicircle, as if in a secluded niche. The third option they have on the background of a large cross. The artist intended to write this composition between the two windows, and the silhouette of the cross at the same time naturally arise. In the fourth, the most complete sketch put more figures of the Apostles on the sides. All four executed watercolor sketch.
Gravestone lament - a frequent subject of paintings in the church since the Middle Ages. It was interpreted in different ways, but primarily as multifigured group (The Virgin and the disciples), with a rough display of grief, weeping, wringing of hands, with gestures of despair. Vrubel prefer them to silence. In all the sketches "Western" than the fourth, has two figures - the Mother of the Son and the dead. All the pain was concentrated in the mother's eyes full of unshed tears. The mother stared at her son and looks like a dumb question asks him about the mystery of death. Not a word or gesture - nothing, only linked with questioning eyes. I think this is expressed most strongly in the second sketch, where the drama deepens because of the absence of any accessories, and both faces are in profile. Beautiful and the third sketch, but it is monochrome, the second is for the vertices in color. Blue gamut - from black-blue, like a thundercloud, a greenish-blue, greenish-blue, are resolved in a white, crossed by transparent blue shadows. Example but the same color scheme in the figure of an angel with a candle and censer. Probably Vrubel conceive the whole painting the church in this vein, color - deep blue to black, turquoise flash and air with the shades of blue white.
I firstly did not assert, as he wrote about the subject on which he worked Vrubel and details that match the details of the proposed work and not a photographic resemblance, thumbnail could be many and they do not have all kept in the museum and be like, even Conversely, when a fake copy.



Сергей Кит вне форума   Ответить с цитированием
Старый 05.12.2009, 02:47 Язык оригинала: Русский       #30
Бывалый
 
Аватар для Mihail
 
Регистрация: 14.12.2008
Адрес: Россия,Санкт-Петербург
Сообщений: 304
Спасибо: 8
Поблагодарили 125 раз(а) в 61 сообщениях
Репутация: 225
По умолчанию

work is similar to the sketch of "the grave mourning for Vladimirsky Cathedral.

Working With a shrug of "crying" but from Vrubel nothing.
 Composition is not typical for Wrubel, closer to the realists 19. like Polenova. Figure no constructive rigidity so characteristic Vrubel. Vrubel even in sketches focus on the plastic shapes and proportions of the eastern face of Christ - expressive eyes or eye sockets, low brow, slender nose. Immediately Christ in plastic, like a log, with the face of Russian Vanya.
Although the sketch is made very talented hand.



Mihail вне форума   Ответить с цитированием
Эти 2 пользователя(ей) сказали Спасибо Mihail за это полезное сообщение:
Pecheneg (06.12.2009), Samvel (05.12.2009)
Ответ


Ваши права в разделе
Вы не можете создавать новые темы
Вы не можете отвечать в темах
Вы не можете прикреплять вложения
Вы не можете редактировать свои сообщения

BB коды Вкл.
Смайлы Вкл.
[IMG] код Вкл.
HTML код Выкл.

Быстрый переход

Похожие темы
Тема Автор Разделы Ответов Последние сообщения
Today born Mikhail Vrubel eva777 Artists, artworks, art history 14 29.01.2014 15:37
Dmitry Vrubel restores "Brotherly Kiss" Евгений Exhibitions and events 53 02.08.2013 14:34
The picture Dmitry Vrubel considered advertising of drugs SergeiSK Chatter 8 11.04.2009 01:46
Pyaskovsky Mikhail G. argonaft Artists, artworks, art history 0 05.04.2009 01:17
Mikhail Frolov Артём Costs, valuation, attribution 5 21.02.2009 18:43





Часовой пояс GMT +3, время: 22:42.
Telegram - Обратная связь - Обработка персональных данных - Архив - Вверх


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Перевод: zCarot