At a round table of Antiquaries

[kr555]

Сообщение от artcol; 2526911"

Actually, the reason that it does not buy the painting seems to me that there are trading it full inadequate . Things have been translated into more than 2 times, some stupid attribution ( usually begin with, " the authenticity of ", " subscription "), etc.

That is so. This is about what I had called up unformed politically correct environment. From which further implies that there is no painting and not looking for (there is a stamp " out there selling paintings full inadequate , I'd better look elsewhere ").

[Vladimir]

Сообщение от Sergey11; 2526081"

Girl molotok.ru tell about how they work in this market
Nothing to hide - gave a lot of numbers

Just to remind you that we have recently been told these numbers here: http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...61#post2409461

in Moscow, the presented results of their molotok.ru - «People's auction," one of the largest auction sites in RuNet, whose shareholders are allegro group and mail.ru. In short, the occasion turned up to teach you the statistics of the neighbors and their current grades.
To start curious estimate e-commerce market in Russia in general. According molotok.ru turnover of physical goods on the Russian Internet in 2012 will be about 342 billion rubles. against 244 billion a year earlier. Annual growth of 40%with serious, but still it is still less than 2%of the casino. In 2012, the country had about 85,000 online stores, and for a year the number had risen to 20%. Audience ever need up to 2012 close to the mark of 58 million (up 15%). This is not the end, but it is believed that in the future no explosive growth will be gone.
Now, about the particulars - that Molotok.ru tells about himself. Average attendance area is now 277 000 visitors a day (which is comparable with the population of Kostroma). The day is more than 12 thousand transactions (on this indicator are in second place after ozon.ru). 86%of transactions occur between different regions. Over 2012 sold about 4.2 million lots totaling 2.8 billion rubles. 28%of the sales - is electronics. A (note) 60%of sales are for antiques and collectibles. Specifically annual statistics is as follows: Numismatics - 541 million rubles (33 thousand customers per month), DPI - 242 million rubles. (31 thousand customers per month), philately and Jubilee - 176 million rubles., Militaria - 172 million rub., porcelain, glass, 110 million rubles., phaleristics - 94 million rubles. Bonistics - 87 mln., silver and jewelry 82 million rubles., icons - 79 mln., well, different - 112 million rubles. That is, in practice, the lion's share of turnover antique segment to "hammer" make coins. Surprised at the question, "Why has no data on the painting?" Came the reply - sales on the materialunastolko insignificant that these statistics have pushed either in DPI, or in a different - not exactly remember.
One of the main brakes on trading paint on the Internet - the problem of counterfeits. No panacea in the Hammer. Disputes are often individually and sellers agree to a refund. New except that now for the consideration of conflicts Hammer began to resort to the expertise of its partner - the State Historical Museum.

[artcol]

Сообщение от kr555

That's so. This is about what I had called up unformed politically correct environment. From which further implies that there is no painting and not looking for (there is a stamp " out there selling paintings full inadequate , I'd better look elsewhere ").

Maybe looking for - but do not buy . What sense to overpay?

[Sergey11]

Well I do not know if the same hammer will solve the problem with the attribution or money back (although they use the ratings of sellers - and I know them very dear sellers ) then this and something happens.

Even if they start to think about it and try to do that either way it is strong and will spur the market in general

At least that what they are doing and are not afraid to take risks, and a number of classical players still living in the past ( 90 or clandestine dashing 70-80s )

In my view auctions more understandable to consumers (I'm talking in general) than to understand what made ​​the ceiling price (not always of course) and a terrible fragmentation in the same " galleries or shops"

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Sergey11; 2527181"

At least they are doing something and are not afraid to take risks

They did not take the risk - this time , Hammer belongs polsomu Avito - two and this firm trade in Russian painting hammers once , I think, says the least .

Сообщение от Sergey11; 2527181"

if the same hammer will solve the problem with attribution or refund

 Hammer attribution deal will not, they are only planning to resort to resort to it only in the extra cases of dispute .

[Sergey11]

Cyril - not every painting Mnuka worth as much as was invested in the creation and development of the hammer - and more will be invested

if this is what the Internet does not mean that they have created and promoted a free resource

[Кирилл Сызранский]

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Сообщение от Sergey11; 2527501"

Cyril - not every painting Mnuka worth as much as was invested in the creation and development of the hammer - and more will be invested
if this is what the Internet does not mean that they have created and promoted the resource for free

Sorry, but from everything you said, I just realized that you refer to me.