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Sergey11 26.03.2013 18:31

At a round table of Antiquaries
 
I can not say that it was very interesting.
In the first part - super sublimation Russian antiques market of the Russian head of Sotheby's department - right on Pelevin

in the second part
Girl from molotok.ru tell about how they work in this market
Nothing to hide - gave a lot of numbers
Total sales of almost 3 mlrda rub of them " antiques " 1.8 mlrda rubles (500 million coins, 400 000 000 DPI, no painting )
And the numbers are growing every year by 20-30%

I thought it would break gallerists
Especially the older generation to them ( hammer ) is very lightly

They say , "Yes you are there all garbage sell"
Asked what Greatest sale
A bill is " napoleonovka " several million rubles - W here they sat

Over the Internet which are not all the same as what the future and it is not necessary to dismiss !

Кирилл Сызранский 26.03.2013 18:51

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Сообщение от Sergey11 (Сообщение 2526081)
I thought it would break gallerists

What tear, then, if

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Сообщение от Sergey11 (Сообщение 2526081)
art is not

?

Sergey11 26.03.2013 19:03

Coins and DPI

and the progress does not stand still

might picture a few years there will be - who knows this for loop progress :cool:>

Кирилл Сызранский 26.03.2013 19:23

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Сообщение от Sergey11 (Сообщение 2526151)
can and pictures in a few years there will be - who knows for statement that progress

Will appear in Russia, when the system will be similar to PayPal.

kr555 26.03.2013 20:13

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran ; 2526261"
will appear in Russia, when the system will be similar to PayPal.

But why? Yandex-money, for example, and now is, but they want to pay extra is not observed.
In Germany and Japan, PayPal is also not caught on, everything is settled by auction only through the bank.
The reasons for the unpopularity of painting some other, not technological ...

sergejnowo 26.03.2013 20:33

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Сообщение от kr555 (Сообщение 2526401)
in Germany and .....
PayPal is also not caught on, everything is settled by auction only through the bank

I apologize for my expression - you write complete nonsense.

Кирилл Сызранский 26.03.2013 20:37

PayPal - a popular payment instrument and, more importantly, it helps to avoid scams and how to insure against transactions with unreliable vendors.

kr555 26.03.2013 20:49

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Сообщение от sergejnowo (Сообщение 2526461)
sorry for the expression - you write complete nonsense .

Check any item on ebay.de, where the seller sends only for Germany.
There is no Paypal options with great probability will not. It only for international payments.
I myself can now distribute these links a huge number , but the point?

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2526471)
Yes, but I do not know if you can use it to delay or cancel the payment of money the seller, for example.
Yes, and get cash from the purse , saying , I do not exactly know , is not very easy.
But PayPal - the popular payment instrument and, more importantly , it helps prevent fraud and, as it insures against transactions with unreliable vendors .

PayPal itself does not insure . For there can not be a private transaction to open debate on the discrepancy of the goods sold . Insures bunch PayPal + eBay, but this initiative eBay, and not the payment system.
As for the Yandex- money, then there is certainly no such protection, but the sale of the coins it does not bother me (although fakes out there, I think , much more, as well as unscrupulous sellers).

Кирилл Сызранский 26.03.2013 20:58

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As for the Yandex- money, then of course there is no such protection , but the sale of the coins it does not bother me (although fakes out there, I think , much more, as well as unscrupulous sellers).

Transfer money to the seller there are many ways - on the card without Sberbank %, sort of, but many prefer the Blitz transfer Sberbank - In this case it is possible to prove the transfer of a particular person , because with this method the passport number and series of the seller specified.

kr555 26.03.2013 21:05

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2526521)
Translate money to the seller there are many ways - on the card without Sberbank %, sort of, but many prefer the Blitz transfer Sberbank - In this case it is possible to prove the transfer of a particular person , because with this method passport number and series of the seller specified .

Well, so what the point. Insures bank transfer fraud is much better. And if we have now Paypal, then in that sense, absolutely nothing will change ( even in front of the deal would be less reliable , and in the case of a fake Paypal definitely wash its hands if the deal was not on eBay).


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