Copyright recurrence

[патриот]

Discussion of this issue, gave me the mysl.Kartinu my good friend, the artist, Putin gave the English koroleve.Hochu ask him to repeat this raboty.Ya long wanted to something he had to buy.
Be an excellent provenance.

[Konstantin]

Сообщение от Artem

The first painting stolen from me, it was a pity - repeated, a third on order. So there were repetitive. My history.

First - a great, powerful. The second and third leniently. Perhaps when they wrote the first, the circumstances and inner disposition were severe, and the second and third become easier.

[Art-lover]

Сообщение от dedulya37

And what people thought about "repetition" and "variant" pictures?
Equally whether these concepts?
Indeed one can say differently. Is the point?

Not only not equivalent, but even by the etymology in different directions. "Loop" involves adherence to the original, ie smoothing variations, "variant" also requires the accentuation of some particular differences.
I've seen cases where the two are very similar in composition version of the picture because of a slight variation of color evoked a completely different emotions - because the author in every picture solve different problems.
It happens that the imagination of the artist's painting is at once in several versions - all in their own good. Then the artist stands before a difficult, sometimes painful choices - give birth to only one of them, or allow to be born and others.

[Артём]

Сообщение от Konstantin

First - excellent, powerful. The second and third leniently. Perhaps when they wrote the first, the circumstances and inner disposition were severe, and the second and third become easier.

       The first was made immediately after the trip to the emotions. And the poems were written to her.
             "Gold of the heavens."
       Radiance lit up the earthly world.
       Shed light golden heavenly
       The proud, treacherous peaks,
       In the shadows of the past - forgotten ruins
       And touches the walls of the monastery
       And snow-white stone chortenam.
       More easier, as you said.
By the way, now doing a repeat of its work. Exhibition version roads, at a price to the buyer. But respect for my works spodvigli treat me with respect to the client. Here's another situation of life, on this topic.

[SDN]

Interestingly, the problem is exacerbated with the development of the media and especially the Internet, as the happy owner of a priceless works by the artist N, suddenly astonished to find out (in one of the sites) that he is not the only winner, but exactly or very similar "picture" is at the collector K or, which is much nicer in the State Tretyakov Gallery. And then what? What is better - mine or theirs? I have now, and they have a fake-ha-ha, and suddenly (the horror!) Vice versa. The problem however ...

I think that artists do not take into account the rapidly increasing informatization of society and continue to hope that nobody will ever know about their "escapade."

Сообщение от dedulya37

kropotkina-o,

C my point of view, the artists make the author's repetition in several cases:
- Young artists had success with the public, sold well
- When the motive of a picture or etude like the artist himself and he is ready to repeat it again and again
- When they need money badly, but no inspiration
- When the artist is already old and new ideas is not enough and in the open air to go hard
- At the request of someone else - in memory
- According to customer

Here, in my view, essential.

I think that the author can be unbearable pity to part with his beloved work. Since it may be connected with something important to the artist.

Сообщение от dedulya37

What people think about the "repetition" and "variant" pictures?
Equally whether these concepts?
Indeed one can say differently. Is the essence?

It is interesting, but what about repetitions or versions of "Black Square"?

However, I know the artist, who almost never parted with the originals of his works, and sells a lot.

[SergeiSK]

I had a precedent with the author's repetition. Five years ago I bought a picture of AI Glazunov. And the summer of 2006 looking at Sotheby's Russian auctions find "their" painting sold! I think somewhere around $ 20000-25000. While in Moscow, has a meeting with Ilya Sergeyevich. He has given me a lot of time talking on different topics. As for my paintings, then at its stretcher number written in pencil 5. This is the fifth option. A Gallery of Glazunov, the second went off at Sotheby's, where two more he did not know, but the fifth was from me. From each other, they differ in size and small details.
And yet it seems to me that the artist makes the author's repetition (s) in order to achieve maximal ideal of his plan.

[Pavel]

Matisse once said that weak work-the worst enemies of the artist, as well as commercial repeats are usually weaker than the "originals", then it is.
  I agree with the opinion that Gerasimov original left and right with the original Feshin. The rest of forgery or copy. Feshin to do with my photos.

[SergeiSK]

Сообщение от Pavel

Matisse once said that weak work-the worst enemies of the artist, as well as commercial repeats are usually weaker than the "originals", then it is.

Do not confuse apples and oranges, ie Commercial repeat with the author's repetition made for various reasons (not like the first version, some rethinking after writing occurred, etc.)

Сообщение от Pavel

I agree with the opinion that the original left Gerasimov,

Ie Sochi with the museum? Today there was, and we examined this picture. It turns on her back so well written! The size of it 117h117 cm, and at 82h82, see Sotheby's came to the conclusion that, at Sotheby's to sell or a fake, but this is not holding this picture, hard to judge, or a reduction in the author's repetition. In favor of the latter can speak and price still 240,000 pounds were probably paid not spontaneously. Or was the examination (in the condition report does not say about it), or council and expert advice.

[Pavel]

All repeats are commercial in nature, do not deceive ourselves. While the artist is cheap if he gets away with it, but at high prices is to first sluchaya.Nikto not want to lose their money. If you still believe that millions of just paying for pretty pictures, you are deeply zabluzhdaetes.Est the notion reputation izdes all very hard.
Look-Gerasimov-great master, and wrote a palette knife so quickly his work fresh, and with the right job yellowed, written sluggish. Feshin academics, their first had been taught the space-look over your head left to the head stuck to the background and how the left is built on the original space.

[Артём]

Сообщение от Pavel

All the repeats are commercial in nature, do not deceive ourselves.

    Not quite! You forget about the gift options, on the regional exhibitions, when the Union was asked to repeat, and much more if you remember.

Сообщение от Pavel

Look over your head left to the head stuck to the background

    So what? The artist, like all creative people, goes from simple to complex and from complex to the simple life, in the end did not notice the nuances of composition and technique, for it is no longer interesting. For example on Sargent wrote that his recent paintings are empty and dry. I understand him! And from this he has not ceased to be a Sargent.