Luba ... like a circle "at the rink." Europe (19) 21g. cop. illegible. (Made out to someone!)

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Сообщение от Pavel

is a small oval (chamber) size, boudoir and toilets., Not to spoil the ladies impression rough edges.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

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Picasso did not write because he had gilded frame, so that the priest plywood oval.
When he wrote them in his pocket was empty and sell it, he did not expect.
The opposite option.

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Сообщение от Amateur, 2335591

About how! But where you take a child with candy "Potato Eaters" on the wrappers? Domestic printing industry has not released exactly like! Really - a special order?
We then brought up, mainly on Shishkin Sawicki ...
(I've got a friend ... What's there - I have, and she, I suppose, half of the forum know. So. She was once a classic text: "We lived very simply, do not show off. Us since childhood accustomed to modesty something. And food is not fussy, and did not eat your salad.'s just that we eat: salmon - as salmon, sturgeon - so sturgeon ... "But it is - so digress).

Paul! The first part of the sentence says about your noneshnie times a rare spiritual purity. I would say - of innocence. (And second, in fact, too ...)

Well, judge are you well: I - clean. You - finally blameless. Oh, and that we will do together, we become? Sing psalms?

Since I changed my mind on you getting married will tell you the whole truth. Childhood I was hungry and happy. Candy had not yet eaten., Especially with the wrappers. Chewing gum was, but fir., And jam. Since most of my childhood in Astrakhan, That the salmon we dried the laundry on a rope, and the eggs, which you forgot to eat with spoons. Payusnuyu slice the bread, and catching crayfish in the river and then they cooked.
Because of the lack of love for Repin and Shishkin, I took up the art of late, under the influence of the French.
You are wrong about the cleanliness, I just have no time for nonsense. Some citizens have already made sure of it. >
I love Ostroumov, and she was friends with Somov, as you know, went to school together.

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Сообщение от AlexSpb

And with regard to the material on which it is drawn I am still at a loss : the side view - something glued , pressed , and when tapped with a knife and weight (about pounds at a thickness of a few millimeters) - a full sense of ceramics .

probably fiberboard material - hard pressed plate with a smooth face . Under a layer of paint will do well for ceramics to the touch. All the more so later 20's. By the way the date is generally very good. illegible

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Сообщение от IV

Material likely Fiberboard - hard pressed plate with a smooth face . Under a layer of paint will do well for ceramics to the touch. All the more so later 20's. By the way the date is generally very good. illegible

Well, then, do not get me in writing convincingly convey his feelings of things (about the board keep quiet).
I think , I do not so much less than you, all in my hands visited to , live to see the object , so wrong. And that deliberately seek to deceive no one , I hope, no doubt.
So , let's wait until the name will be found (and give up the thing , do not get to the truth , I was in this particular case, the reason is not highly desirable). Then I think everything will fall into place .

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Сообщение от IV; 2335041 "

Material likely fiberboard

Before the advent of fiberboard market quite a freely existed and other composite materials, having basically pressed and glued wood and textile fibers. ( Himiki! Forgive my ignorance of exposition).
All these materials are more or less successfully used as a basis for painting . According to the pictures you can not say anything (well, except that the author's last name begins with "Klein", date - "21" , painting - professional, and the ground - there is no >
P.S. If anyone has reliable information about when the first in the market of packaging or construction (because it is obvious: in the painting they came from there) material has its first " canvas " - share, please. This really helped to further at attribution.

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Сообщение от Dilettante , 2335091"

If anyone has any reliable information as to when the first time on the market of packaging or construction (because it is obvious: in the painting they came from there) material has its first " canvas " - share, please. This really helped to further at attribution.

The forum has already given such a statement, but hardboard called masonitom , Western-style Too time.
Naidu now, I'll try.

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Сообщение от Dilettante , 2335091"

and all that stuff , more or less successfully used as a basis for painting .

I remember the story of the Repin "Christ the crown of thorns " of Gelos , which reached the Court.
Admitted to the auction mural on a cement slab 51h54 , matured initially in Gelos and found to work Yeping , but in all e anaogii no Frescoes n found and the auction lot was , it seems , for $ 500.
But who bought this item after his persistent search atributirova (it turned out that the quality of advertising Repin in German ? Manufacturer of these new colors , as it were ordered to write something on the sample ) and put on elose is for an amount that is 100 dollars prevyshayushuyu .
Prezhdnie owners sued , etc.

And, here , I found details of this story. >

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Interesting story, never heard of her before.
I do not know how the topic, but there are countries in Europe where the dealers , store owners , not just offered me a decent things on the condition that they will be taken out of the country and it is desirable for the European auctions will not appear. A couple of times refused, considering it a hint that things are stolen. Then, when the situation began to repeat itself , I decided to find out what was going on , what kind of country is this - very often sell stolen !
It was found that if the dealer bought the owner thing, or taken on a commission for a certain amount, then he, as a professional, is responsible for the correctness of this amount, before trusting it deliverers and not trade this thing at a premium , it seems , more than 50 percent ( details not know, maybe , if discovered " new circumstances " must additionally share). I think that particular precedents have been a little bit and they just happened to serious things, but they were all familiar with : the court always got up in these cases on the side of the first owner of things.

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Сообщение от AlexSpb; 2334831"

on the side view - something glued , pressed , and when tapped with a knife and weight (about pounds at a thickness of a few millimeters) - a full sense

Argument. ( As with any organoleptic >
I remember when in my arms for the first time got the picture the end of the 1850s , written by a very high quality "rag " cardboard, that's what struck me : when tapped carton was making absolutely WOODEN SOUND!

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran ; 2335111"

The forum has given such a statement, but hardboard called masonitom , Western-style Too time .

That's a big thank you! Just - huge. I think, not elevated to a special slander if I say the vast majority of national experts that information unfamiliar.
How many times myself faced with this situation : stylistically flawless work that has all the signs of aging, with the signature is not in doubt , but - done on the smooth side of the old hardboard . And once - regarding the possibility of dating ).
And from this information? To which the author refers in particular? (This is me to meet purely academic interest .) And your post dragged into a burrow.

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Сообщение от Dilettante , 2335121"

And your post dragged into a burrow.

Yes it is not " my post ", and quotes from other knowledgeable members of the forum so nishih . >
In each of the quotation, by the way , there is a blue arrow right after the nickname of the quoted party - press on it and find yourself in the topic , there is , perhaps, something else interesting about hardboard , fiberboard , Mason .