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AlexSpb 10.11.2012 23:09

Luba ... like a circle "at the rink." Europe (19) 21g. cop. illegible. (Made out to someone!)
 
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"circle Somov " in the title , this is , of course, a series of " head first - a detective in order to entice the reader."
However , the picture is good. size 42h31 . Drawn on a strange texture, ceramic, or PCB -like . However, the reasons to doubt the date , like, no.

Honestly held a decent amount of time to walk through the databases - no suitable starting with E.Klei ... not found.

I-V 10.11.2012 23:54

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(19) 21 g


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, however, reasons to doubt the date, like, no.


AlexSpb, in my opinion, much later - 60's - 70's (or even later)

K-Maler 11.11.2012 00:10

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walk through the databases


Once saw an exhibition of postcards on the subject collector Gorsky.
Perhaps there would be an answer there.
Look in that direction.

AlexSpb 11.11.2012 01:56

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In dating , as has been written, it is hardly necessary to doubt . Here's the first photo is visible trace of the first frame (in my inserted, probably later ). In the second photo shows the three-dimensional rare strokes of paint , you may believe - quite petrified . And to whom any interest " zadurivat " such a thing , signing its 21st year, and at the same time - some little-known name?

And with regard to the material on which it is drawn , I still at a loss : the side view - something glued , pressed , and when tapped with a knife and weight (about pounds at a thickness of a few millimeters) - a full sense of ceramics ...

Of collector Gorsky found some . Only old photo it as I say ... does not appear to longevity . And what a "subject" is meant? If ice skating, then maybe it Gorsky and leader. And if - painting , I think , a collection of expert Petrova may be more useful .
However, probably , the study collections of cards, it is called - a gun on sparrows. Sending pictures to some German auction is clearly more likely to succeed ...

Pavel 11.11.2012 08:49

Luba is a circle, grapes and and the world of art.
This is simply imitation.

Дилетант 11.11.2012 09:37

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circle is Luba , grapes and and art world .

Paul is such a vulgar truism ( as it so happens that I am here - the unquestioned authority on the banal truism :D>) : If a person has no sense of humor, he should have at least a sense of a lack of sense of humor . Forgive generously ( You're generous ?)
"Circle Somov " - is a joke. Rather, in my view, elegant. And funny. (Well , again - in my opinion). "Circle Somov " - is a kind of book "Snakes in Iceland " and "Life of Pope Joan " in Chesterton. (Well, if you know what I mean) .
I also do not think that the work of late. Stylistically quite a end 1910 - x- 1920 fits . Not that that in Europe - even in Russia at a specified time in a similar vein, continued to work many, many ( I can name offhand immediately G.K.Savitskogo and L.I.Marderosova ). And do not take them : not a revolutionary soldiers with the sailors , no cards , no revolutionary sailors with cards ...
This is me this good because smoking quit. Forty years of smoking , and here - dropped ...

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By the way , the work L.I.Marderosova written in Soviet Russia. And, by the way, in the notorious one a thousand nine hundred and twenty first year.
From the foregoing it follows that:
 a) the time to create a picture " on the skating rink " special calls into question not worth it ;
b) Amateur - hard-working and friendly. :shy:>

Дилетант 11.11.2012 09:57

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By the way , the work L.I.Marderosova written in Soviet Russia. And, by the way, in the notorious one a thousand nine hundred and twenty first year.
From the foregoing it follows that:
 a) the time to create a picture " on the skating rink " special calls into question not worth it ;
b) Amateur - hard-working and friendly. :shy:>

I-V 11.11.2012 09:57

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And with regard to the material on which it is drawn I am still at a loss : the side view - something glued , pressed , and when tapped with a knife and weight (about pounds at a thickness of a few millimeters) - a full sense of ceramics .

probably fiberboard material - hard pressed plate with a smooth face . Under a layer of paint will do well for ceramics to the touch. All the more so later 20's. By the way the date is generally very good. illegible

AlexSpb 11.11.2012 10:51

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Material likely Fiberboard - hard pressed plate with a smooth face . Under a layer of paint will do well for ceramics to the touch. All the more so later 20's. By the way the date is generally very good. illegible

Well, then, do not get me in writing convincingly convey his feelings of things (about the board keep quiet).
I think , I do not so much less than you, all in my hands visited to , live to see the object , so wrong. And that deliberately seek to deceive no one , I hope, no doubt.
So , let's wait until the name will be found (and give up the thing , do not get to the truth , I was in this particular case, the reason is not highly desirable). Then I think everything will fall into place .

Дилетант 11.11.2012 11:00

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Material likely fiberboard

Before the advent of fiberboard market quite a freely existed and other composite materials, having basically pressed and glued wood and textile fibers. ( Himiki! Forgive my ignorance of exposition).
All these materials are more or less successfully used as a basis for painting . According to the pictures you can not say anything (well, except that the author's last name begins with "Klein", date - "21" , painting - professional, and the ground - there is no :)>
P.S. If anyone has reliable information about when the first in the market of packaging or construction (because it is obvious: in the painting they came from there) material has its first " canvas " - share, please. This really helped to further at attribution.


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