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Старый 13.02.2009, 00:42 Язык оригинала: Русский       #21
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Recently talked with a good one - in all senses - an artist who for ten years vegetarianism. I asked him a question: Did vegetarianism in his work. The answer was categorical: absolutely not. Then he added that "has always been a vegetarian by nature, only to realize it is not immediately.
This answer was very in tune with my own experience. Yes being changed, in part perception, but the general system of thought remains the same.

And in this respect an example of the Roerich --
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This kind of "meditation" vegetarianism professed Nicholas Roerich and his wife, Elena Ivanovna. Vegetarianism, in their view, purifies the body and spirit, and enables access to more "delicate" matter, inaccessible to mere mortals. Thus was born VISIONARY theory of Shambhala, an invisible country, a kind of spirit of Atlantis, which could only be achieved on. Painting of Roerich this period, the color and light - is an attempt to express in paint the ideal of Shambhala. So, a colleague, I can not agree that "spiritual" vegetarianism does not affect the painting. However, similar practices and used monks icon painters. Before you start writing the icons, they spent a long time in severe fasting and prayer, which was to help them in the contemplation of higher truths.
- Proves nothing.

Vegetarianism Roerich was a consequence of the same reasons that prompted him to search of Shambhala (incidentally, arose the legend of Shambhala Buddhists for many centuries before the Roerich Museum), and this is the reason identified the main features of his paintings.
As the monks, the abandonment of animal food - just one of the components of a complex system of bodily limitations and spiritual practices, which prescribed the icon-painters.

Thus, to isolate the "contribution" of vegetarianism (in any of its forms - the ethical, meditative, diet) in the work of artists from the mass of more weighty reasons, apparently, does not seem possible. But of course, Stanislavsky, these considerations in any case did not question the idea of your article "Vegetarianism in Art", as should welcome every opportunity to generate interest as to vegetarianism, and the arts.



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Dear, Art-lover, nobody is going to do "isolate". Indeed, there is no direct correlation between vegetarianism and the arts, as there is none between ethics and aesthetics. Nevertheless, the "beauty" and "good" often come in pairs, and the absence of one of these two hypostases art often makes the last one-dimensional and insincere. Here is a quotation from Friedrich Nietzsche, which deals with philosophy, but which (with all its maximalism) can be unequivocally attributed to the sphere of art.

"All ancient philosophy was oriented to the simplicity of life and taught some unassuming. In this sense, few philosophers are vegetarians have a great service to mankind than all new philosophers, and as long as these philosophers would pluck up courage and went looking for completely different way of life, and do not show it by example, they will remain empty place "



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Старый 13.02.2009, 13:58 Язык оригинала: Русский       #23
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Zenia, you said very much. Lively, nepostedstvenny experience and is the most vivid svidelstvo. By the way, there is a very simple way once and for all become a vegetarian - go to slaughter. And Trubetskoy, and Van Gogh, and many others that way and turned "...
In about 12 years, doing a morning run around the cottages in the countryside - suddenly saw how they killed the pig ... awoke from a deep swoon at the neighbors on giving - the full horror of experience before my eyes and now, but did not become a vegetarian and although intellectually understand the correctness and necessity of the post but every time I hold it self-restraint



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Старый 13.02.2009, 14:26 Язык оригинала: Русский       #24
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I have a week 3 as I do not eat meat, I do not know that I was pushed to the back .... Maybe this topic? : shy: But I somehow "natural" is am feeling ... No lomok or coercion!

This Easter will have a prinut to meat at the Passover meal, as well as more will be: let's see.



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I have a week 3 as I do not eat meat, I do not know that I was pushed to the back .... Maybe this topic? : shy: But I somehow "natural" is am feeling ... No lomok or coercion!
Oh, the great power of art! Bravo, Zenia, bravo!



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Старый 13.02.2009, 14:41 Язык оригинала: Русский       #26
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Well, "bravo" is overly. For me it's probably a more normal state ... I have you, by the way this namenknula, the birthday congratulations. : D



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Старый 13.02.2009, 14:47 Язык оригинала: Русский       #27
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Thank you again, dear Zenia! This is generally normal for everyone, especially for a person with a developed aesthetic sense.



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Старый 13.02.2009, 14:53 Язык оригинала: Русский       #28
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The question is not whether to eat meat or not eat, and the meaning of vegetarianism is not the point.

The idea is that as long as possible to maintain health, youth, hard work, high vitality, sharpness of mind and memory, and so on., Etc.. And all human problems associated with diseases and the aging of the organism, due primarily to consumption of food poisoning. That is, in order to avoid problems and improve your health, you should not have food poisoning. And, I must say that vegetarian food can not be less toxic, than non-vegetarian.

In fact, poisons any heat-treated food - be it vegetarian, non-vegetarian - does not matter. ANY!

Read the first book of the Gospel of Essenes, where this very well told, and this is true (about what I have on this " the dog ate it ", I will not remind, although it has been, and reminded me).

In general, the only option for healthy, neotravlyayuschego food - raw food diet. Raw food diet, but not veganism, implying only a raw food vegetarian diet. Refusing to products of animal origin can not be, it is a mortal danger (I'm not kidding, this really is and about the same, incidentally, is mentioned in EMoE (Gospel of Peace of the Essenes)).

Okay, I will not continue, because it is a separate and serious issue, apparently, still not for this forum.



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Старый 13.02.2009, 15:43 Язык оригинала: Русский       #29
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The question is not whether to eat meat or not eat, and the meaning of vegetarianism is not the point.

The idea is that as long as possible to maintain health, youth, hard work, high vitality, sharpness of mind and memory, and so on., Etc..
Admin, dear!

Die when something from what nibut have, and not important, it will be 50 years or over 150 ....

The question is not about food, but the qualitative content of life!

If the rejection of meat, improves the quality of life Moye, not because it is healthier, but that it is in harmony with itself and with its outlook, I give up meat.
For me, the quality of life does not consist in taking care of health, for me it is the residence life in order, as I see the meaning.

Classes Capoeira, for example, yield and bruises sometimes. In terms of health can find something pobezopasnee ... Tai Qi Huang, for example, which is also very fond of. But he does not give the same QUALITY! Games, mood, drive, rhythm .... Although bruising does not.



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Truly so, Zenia! That money life. This was written by Leo Tolstoy in his excellent "first step".



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