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[Николай Испания]

Eugene,

Сообщение от Eugene ; 2037631"

Here is what the well-known collector of this personage ...
"I believe that we should not hesitate to name names - says Peter Aven, - That the experts , or THG Valyaeva Lomize . He trusts few people . There are people who like art historian Svetlana Jafarova , it is really professional and knowledgeable woman, deliberately embarked on the path of selling fakes. .. "

in this article refers to the directory and the directory of experts fakes , do not tell where to download ?

[OlegTsi]

Nicholas Spain, I found another photo depicting a similar picture with Paloma . If you really look closely , between this and your can find a lot of differences. It is best to upload a photo and switch from first to second . So to repeat many times. Your eye catches all what I was trying to say.

am convinced that the problem with your portrait of Paloma settled. Anyway, for me.

P.S. That you have a family photo with a similar portrait of Picasso, Paloma , indicates that someone is seriously prepared " attach" this "masterpiece " or up to 2 million or for $ 25 million , as you wrote earlier. Do not take it personally. This " someone" is the one who took care of the picture , about an exhibition in California, and it all came up . Cool !

[Николай Испания]

OlegTsi,

Сообщение от OlegTsi

Although the image of your picture is already walking on the internet from 2009 to 2010, when for the first time she appeared on the show in Heather James Fine Art Gallery, in Palm Desert, California.
Before that she had not met anywhere else.

Yes you are right, this picture was not shown anywhere except Sala Gaspar Barcelona, ​​1960, 30 CUADROS INÉDITOS 1917-1960, try to find it in the photo.

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OlegTsi,

Сообщение от OlegTsi; 2038001"

Nicholas Spain, I found another photo depicting a similar picture with Paloma . If you really look closely , between this and your can find a lot of differences .

I'm not looking for those pictures gave them to me , this photo of the ball is made by the same photographer Edward Quinn, as the previous one with the family , but with the family on Christmas Day 1953, and this is dated 1954, but in the same house and even in these photos pictures differ.

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OlegTsi,

Сообщение от OlegTsi; 2038001"

Do not take it personally .

Not in any way , I blame myself , I offered to sell and I gave in , without checking and without talking , perhaps this topic should be opened with one picture , rather than five and not selling in the section , and the other with a request to evaluate or advise I am new in this business .

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OlegTsi,

Сообщение от OlegTsi; 2038001"

I am convinced that the problem with your portrait of Paloma settled. Anyway, for me.

Sorry, I wanted to ask the real picture photography , as you advised on all sides to put on and listen to our opinions, it is worth the millions it or not, because the fact that you have found and my picture ( not including the black-and- white photographs ) it prints for exhibitions and catalogs, I'm afraid to be wrong.
And people get upset , he was so proud of these pictures ( they had 14 different course, not only Paloma ) , and he does not believe me, as I believe you have it and have a certificate signed by Maya Widmaier Picasso 04.05.2008 under the number 13,209 , for the Spaniard is a greater authority in the assessment of Picasso. Yeah , okay thought so decided .

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OlegTsi,

Сообщение от OlegTsi; 2038001"

suggests that someone is seriously prepared " attach" this "masterpiece " or up to 2 million or for $ 25 million , as you wrote earlier. Do not take it personally. This " someone" is the one who took care of the picture , about an exhibition in California, and it all came up . Cool !!!

And if so , do not dig , and wondering whether to bring this man to clean water, I always looked hurt the Spaniards, they sometimes say stupid Russian wallets and it hurts me .

[Николай Испания]

OlegTsi,

Сообщение от OlegTsi; 2038001"

Nicholas Spain, I found another photo depicting a similar picture with Paloma . If you really look closely , between this and your can find a lot of differences .

I'm not looking for those pictures gave them to me , this photo of the ball is made by the same photographer Edward Quinn, as the previous one with the family , but with the family on Christmas Day 1953, and this is dated 1954, but in the same house and even in these photos pictures differ.

[Николай Испания]

OlegTsi,

Сообщение от OlegTsi; 2038001"

Do not take it personally.

Not in any way, I blame myself, I offered to sell and I gave in, without checking and without talking, perhaps this topic should be opened with one picture, rather than five and not selling in the section, and the other with a request to evaluate or advise I am new in this business.

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OlegTsi,

Сообщение от OlegTsi; 2038001"

I am convinced that the problem with your portrait of Paloma settled. Anyway, for me.

Sorry, I wanted to ask the real picture photography, as you advised on all sides to put on and listen to our opinions, it is worth the millions it or not, because the fact that you have found and my picture (not including the black-and-white photographs) it prints for exhibitions and catalogs, I'm afraid to be wrong.
And people get upset, he was so proud of these pictures (they had 14 different course, not only Paloma), and he does not believe me, as I believe you have it and have a certificate signed by Maya Widmaier Picasso 04.05.2008 under the number 13,209, for the Spaniard is a greater authority in the assessment of Picasso. Yeah, okay thought so decided.

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OlegTsi,

Сообщение от OlegTsi; 2038001"

suggests that someone is seriously prepared "attach" this "masterpiece" or up to 2 million or for $ 25 million, as you wrote earlier. Do not take it personally. This "someone" is the one who took care of the picture, about an exhibition in California, and it all came up. Cool!!!

And if so, do not dig, and wondering whether to bring this man to clean water, I always looked hurt the Spaniards, they sometimes say stupid Russian wallets and it hurts me.

[uriart]

Way of determining the authenticity of these works can be reduced to a minimum.
Contact Sotebis or Christie and ask them to sell these works.
Listen to what you will answer .
They have a strong experts and there will understand what, where, when!
And if they answer you, say thank you. We will not sell these works. Then you'll understand everything yourself .
Although I personally fully trust the opinion of Oleg.

[fabosch]

Сообщение от Nicholas Spain

Yeah , okay thought so decided .

Nicholas Spain, you have to understand that in this region can not be final , irrevocable , and 100 %-GOVERNMENTAL judgments and guarantees. No examination of even the most authoritative , do not give a full guarantee of authenticity. This is still a probability score. 100%- this is when you buy a work of a painter ( and even then, only for you personally). And you do not advise trying to assessing the authenticity of the work .
But you should alert one very important fact. Ask yourself a simple question . And why you were asked to sell the work , not a professional dealer or a gallery ?
I think about it as you wrote , and uriart
Usually not cheap any reasonable product collectors will not buy from an unverified source. Everybody wants to deal with professionals who are interested to somehow ensure the cleanliness of the transaction - it's their reputation . And even then mistakes are always possible or even immorality .

[Frunze]

With regard to these works I want to say my dear Nicholas. Unfortunately you have to drive to say the least misleading. Trying to sell things in a falling market, an antique Russian yavlyaetsya utopian idea. Here, people run up to the buyer that would have something to sell. There, the situation is opposite the market in response to the crisis on the rise. And if these works were exhibited at the auction would be , pardon the slang they would have broken a hundred little bears ... You have a very different situation your Spanish partners to put it mildly something not telling ....... I assure you that sell it to the avant-garde Popov pravenansom not difficult . I think I would find it on pristizhnoy exhibition in Maastricht. It is well aware of it . So do not marochte my head ....

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uriart,

Сообщение от uriart; 2038121"

path determine the authenticity of these works can be reduced to a minimum.
Contact Sotebis or Christie and ask them to sell these works .

Then why there is this forum and many others , to put all the answering machine.
"Help to assess ..."
Three green tone ...
" Call Christie , do not respond , well, then Sotheby's ..."
"It is possible to sell ..."
Three green tone ...
" Call Christie , do not respond , well, then Sotheby's ..."
Yet even with these auction houses from people having problems .

[John Preston]

Сообщение от Nicholas Spain

However, even with these auction houses from people having problems .

Arise , not only the sellers but the buyers ... <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

Simply, if they are interested in , then it is likely that the work is correct and if the interest does not arise, it is pointless to bother with these pictures . It's simple .