The art market as it is

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Сообщение от Samvel ; 1720213"

Something more do not speak about Libya , nor about Syria, what is it? Is democracy ?

I was recently in Syria ... do not need them , our fake democracy . excellent live there are happy people ! They revere the elderly, family , church ( and hristyanskuyu too!) There are refuges for aging animals ( donkeys and camels) that funded the mosque. One Damascus universities produce annually about 150,000 people .... medicine they will be better than our . Structure of the country as it is not you call based on ancient traditions that do not do that very strong.

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Сообщение от Samvel

themselves had drawn, they pull back and also those who are just predisposed to that lifestyle. Where is their mind and intelegentnost, why is this kind of advertising on such a massive canal. Maybe this is it in action? As you can skip the ceremony, and after a few seconds to show the famine in Africa, and the destruction and death in other places. Why, the same tragedy (suicide bombing in Iraq or Afghanistan, which daily takes the lives of hundreds of people still just an announcement and ter act in Norway becomes a regular show) Even in our forum it can be traced. No act of ter in Afghanistan in Iraq that kills hundreds of people, not received a separate topic, and sympathy. What is it? Or so it should be? Maybe I say something wrong? And the last observation. Something more do not speak about Libya, nor about Syria, what is it? Is democracy?

Samvel, I hope it's a rhetorical question. As it can be answered in one word? Nothing. Time such manners ETC.

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Сообщение от Oleg Nazarov

I was recently in Syria ... do not need them, our fake democracy. excellent live there are happy people! They revere the elderly, family, church (and hristyanskuyu too!) There are refuges for aging animals (donkeys and camels) that funded the mosque. One Damascus universities produce annually about 150,000 people .... medicine they will be better than our. Structure of the country as it is not you call based on ancient traditions that do not do that very strong.

Spoke recently at a hotel with a Syrian of my age. He says it is very difficult children start - you need a steady income, he - a doctor, yet allow themselves can not. Although it would seem - on the contrary.
In Russia, on probation.

[kazerov]

Сообщение от Samvel

Here, too, I do not mean Western consumers . Today on evronovostyam showed up as Nu York , blessed with two adult blockheads marriage ( same sex ). Those for whom health , food elevated to a cult. What's the difference what do they eat? I certainly understand that this is their private affair and all the like, but I do not want to live among them , or rather their fear , I fear more than the police and government officials. It is possible that they may be good people , but for some reason, this feeling does not leave me when I see these people. Do not be a magician, something would be judged by their appearance about the person.

This is natural ...
I recommend you not to go to Thailand ...
and that Victor Bout was not afraid , went and now its too much time in America trying to zataylandit .

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от Samvel; 1720153"

But how does it apply? After all, the audience is not the same, even that which is interested in the art. On the one (the work itself or the method of delivery), it can produce a very deep impression, and the other left entirely untouched. How do I combine them? Probably suschevstvuyut some specific technology, as it were a set of low-lying, mediocre human desires, which are accounted for already in the public supply of the product, in any case this is not something high, but rather a shell that is empty inside.

1.Dorogoy Samvel, do not look anywhere spirituality (especially where it is not ...)
2.Samvel, they should not unites, and razedinyat! (Target market) .. You're not selling a dog grass, rabbit cake and the girl raw meat? Around and on the art market (this is on my mind, this is basic)
In Russia (former Soviet Union *) still maintained "enertsiya cultural groundwork of socialism," and perhaps nowhere more mass there is no understanding of realism, and as a consequence, and artists and collectors. Markets "bad" and good "exist independently of each other and all is quiet until they intersect.
Then begins the "syndrome of sharks" (well, you understand,,), confusion, nerazbriha "confusion and hesitation" ...
I think the main poblema is to separate the "wheat from the chaff," to understand the difference. define "its size", "their place" (and the artist and gallerist) at this motley confusing (dirty?) Picture of the World ..
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*- Suggest PSPr abbreviation. (Often used, the term is long and capacious notion)

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"Dung separately pearl-alone"
This is the golden rule can be extended to almost all. (Except for art)
Here today may become tomorrow manure pearls (sometimes vice versa, but rarely)

In any case, to consult on with pearls go to the jeweler, on manure-to the gardener. (Well, and buy, respectively in the same place ..)
Although some (and hudozhnki, and gallery owners) prefer dung heap (without intermediaries ..)

The best solution is to balance personal preferences, desires and opportunities, to act "within their sphere of activity" and does not take into account "the ugly faces of the market" ..

The world has accumulated a lot of money at an astronomically small count of people and at any moment fragile ranovesie (if any meaning upotrebyat this concept) can easily be broken ...

[Pavel]

Nat ! A lot of money does not mean buying pictures. Pictures bought the usual bourgeois to be close to the elite. Many are buying with a view to investing money. Percentage yield at purchase of original paintings is the highest. Emphasize - the original , not a beautiful or konterporari or abstract is empty. Therefore, in line behind Picasso , etc. percentage is high. And for a fake head off demolish it so .

[Евгений]

Сообщение от Pavel; 1721031"

Many are buying with a view to investing money.

Paintings by contemporary artists on the principle of buying only like it or not , investments do not think , and how to sell on the secondary market ?

Сообщение от Pavel; 1721031"

rate of return when buying an original painting of the highest.

More than one auction house in Moscow ( even for money) will not take on the implementation of such products .. 9 times out of 10, which yield ? Paul dropped to the ground .

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от Eugene

Paintings by contemporary artists on the principle of buying only like it or not

(Probably, again in terms of confusion)

Modern-in the sense of "live"?

I still can not agree!

For example ...
Banks!

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Pavel,

Eugene,

That occurred to me that by "modern" refers to contemporary artists-realists (and realistic interpreters) the former Soviet Union ..

So?

[Kaffsky]

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

( probably again in terms of confusion )

 under the "modern" is understood

"Christie" uses the definition of "contemporary art" , ie such that , "art after 1970 ."

"Sotheby's" defines the work after 1945 and before 1970 - as " early modern " and after 1970 , simply "modern ."

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Eugene

Paintings by contemporary artists on the principle of buying only like it or not , investments do not think , and how to sell on the secondary market ?

More than one auction house in Moscow ( even for money) will not take pictures for the implementation of modern , professional, but little-known artists ( such as artists 90%), which yield ?

I do not know what the secondary market . In France it is. I , because this is taldychu a long time, we have no mechanism for reselling , without which no market. For this reason , the auction houses and can not sell anything , they just do not trust , and rightly so .

Kontenporari term used to define a certain kind of art. This trend occurred long ago and has also run out of steam . Twenty years ago these were the bricks of the topic. They are subject, and now like a Rauschenberg, but it's an art because it is original . If you put their work on the English site , you will ask in what style you are working and will list , but in all these styles need to be an outstanding success , then .

[Konstantin]

Сообщение от Oleg Nazarov

I was recently in Syria ...
do not need them, our fake democracy

Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

I was not in Syria, but there's pictures:

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