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Старый 12.07.2011, 23:24 Язык оригинала: Русский       #21
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As parents continue to live with the survivors of Bulgaria. We are drowning children? They probably before the end of life will remember these moments . And , as we now live captains who did not stop their ships ? Who knows, maybe do not see ( the storm waves). Or is power so spoiled people? Do not want to believe that everything is so terrible. I think that just Russian slovenliness and campers and staff. God grant that this never happens again .



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Старый 13.07.2011, 12:18 Язык оригинала: Русский       #22
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That's not reading , but the water looked. > It turned out that
Mikhail Antonov - the owner of the Kama River Shipping Company ( Perm) - drowning ship , " Bulgaria " - more than 100 dead .
and Anatoly Zak - the owner of "Lame Horse" (Perm) - burnt coffee " Lame Horse " - 156 dead.
- People around Chirkunov. See video radio "Rain" and other videos before : http://antichirkunov.livejournal.com



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Старый 14.07.2011, 00:53 Язык оригинала: Русский       #23
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If the captain was a principal, the owner would find another captain .
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zarajara, what happened with the previous captain of the " Bulgaria" :

owners riverboat " Bulgaria " , which sank in the waters of the Volga
 and killed more than 100 passengers and crew members,
 threats and blackmail forced the crew to work in adverse weather conditions.

 Such a statement , according to Life News, made ​​the Eugene Minyaev, who previously headed the crew of " Bulgaria" .
 His wife worked in the same boat senior hostess .

 Captain Minyaev did not long endure pressures on , and resigned after only two months.
 
"I myself have repeatedly refused to go in bad weather
 but they are literally forced to do so as not to lose their money " - confessed to the captain Minyaev .



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Старый 23.07.2011, 21:22 Язык оригинала: Русский       #24
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How do parents continue to live with the survivors of Bulgaria. We are drowning children?
Maria Chernova, mother, who died on the boat, "Bulgaria" "I'll tell the whole truth about the tragedy in Kazan. Now you and listen fastened »

13 July, 20.10

I already took her son's death as fate and destiny. But what happened in Kazan, simply incomprehensible to me now to live in this country do not want to.
I feel humiliated.
On television, all lies. Now I do not believe anyone. Psychologists do not - it's the feds, who had put an icon-fork. They have one job - caring for the manner they do their best to scare were not, they do not care about people.
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They know that there are no survivors, encouraging, talk about a miracle and make people hope, and people believe and expect a miracle. And all this is that there was no panic.
All bastards and bitches. Yet not a single Russian channel did not say that the crew of 23 men survived, but lost only 12. And the passengers survived, 54 died and 100. Do you feel the relationship? Do you know why among the dead were mostly women and children? Because the men-Ambalov otpinyvali from large life rafts women! A small rafts were all in holes, and stop up their fingers. When rescuers arrived, they were breast-water, and it is in the flesh!

On Sunday, the river port had no staff, no one passing through the "ambulance" survivors was a mere formality.

On Monday, relatives of those killed were on identification. We are located in the heart of nuclear medicine: it is exposed to oncology. A forensic examination is near, and bring to the body. They are transported to the refrigerator with a meat processing plant. Then opened, photographed and shown to relatives.

In the morgue, the body lying on each other. In 1 or 2 hours on Tuesday came prime minister of Tatarstan to meet with relatives. When asked whether to open children, said the Tatar. I asked again, he has not even indignant, and said, "Let's do everything in our power."

I realized that it is necessary to take into their own hands. In the morning I began to turn to investigators - about the disclaimer on the opening. They said they did not know how to write statement. I went from long to sledaka chief physician and chief of the morgue, and they told me in plain text stated that they do not know how to write statement. And that brought a result, therefore everything must be opened.
Excuse me, but what about the refusal of medical intervention, and how voluntary hospitalization, but what about my rights? I met my teacher, and with it we wrote a statement in any form: "I reject the opening of his inner convictions, because I am a mother, and I believe that my child is not necessary, but the investigation it does not hurt." The statement I gave to a certain Novikov (main sledaka). He looked up and said that when they enter the bodies of children, he will consider my application, as long as he can not accept it, and convinced me that the pictures are still integers. When I recognized my son, I immediately ran to him and he passed me and said, who need not to do an autopsy. Apparently, he did not expect that I promptly fired. His words: "What? Who gave you the pictures? I will no promises. " In his eyes was terrible.

Realizing that his son had not yet opened, but they did not even think to consider my application and there is time, I went to the investigator to confirm identification, then identification of the corpse. From that moment began the game against the rules of any morals. The investigator has a special stall for time. After all the investigators, etc. Novikov said that it is now revealed, and all too late, and sledak generally disappeared. Then after 20 minutes. came out and said that now begin to break. In the end, after I saw the photo identification of the body only an hour showdown. When I asked: "Whose is this son, or my state?" - They were silent. I was powerless against the system. Human rights mean nothing in our country, the main thing - result, someone's ass, etc. My crumb simply closes the gap in their record. And I am disgusted afterward. People asked me to sue the investigator to whom I gave my statement, I found this phrase incongruous.

I found it funny: they brought a marafet before TV and the government. They laid out a run-run paving, lights and buried him there and then dyed, cut off the lower branches from birch trees, sweeping the pavement and measured the pressure all in a row for the camera. On TV say that the family provide meals, lodging and medicines. Medicine, glycine, and valerian act, but prescribe Afobazol for 230 p. Power: pies cool in flies and once with buckwheat sauce, tea, free coffee for a fee. Accommodations: a blanket.

I do not want to live in this country, I do not want to live!
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Старый 23.07.2011, 21:32 Язык оригинала: Русский       #25
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"Whose is this son , or my state ? " - They were silent. I was powerless against the system. Human rights mean nothing in our country, the main thing - result , someone's ass , etc
Untermenshi they , of course. Vertical . All polls . The other day penalty imposed - because time is not prescribed child. I also asked the question "Is it normal? ", In reply : " We act according to the law , so we take care of your children ." What to say to them ?



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Старый 23.07.2011, 22:11 Язык оригинала: Русский       #26
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the other day fine imposed - because time is not prescribed for the child.
Instead of money to spend on the child, "take your money to us, for the child."
Super!
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Старый 23.07.2011, 22:17 Язык оригинала: Русский       #27
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Instead of money to spend on the child, "take your money to us, for the child."
Great!
Yes, exactly.
You, the citizens of Russia, the main beget more.
Serf slaves ...
sorry, citizens of Russia >



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Старый 23.07.2011, 22:33 Язык оригинала: Русский       #28
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the other day fine imposed - because time is not prescribed for the child.
I would have sued.
If the time course.

On the local Spanish.
power to sue is easy and fun.
They are generally half of lawsuits do not go, success at this stage 50%.
 
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Старый 23.07.2011, 23:25 Язык оригинала: Русский       #29
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I would be sued . If the time course.
On the local Spanish. power to sue is easy and fun . They are generally half of lawsuits do not go, success at this stage 50%.
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Not hardly. First of all, I know (including their own experience ), as in the courts to state -woo and his representatives are considering ( for tyrnetu roamed the court about the impossibility of error in the actions of the President of Russia ) and without a good lawyer out there to do nothing , and attract a good lawyer does not make sense - the amount in dispute is small. And secondly , I am morally right - would rather poke in the face of the representatives of the state-va sim fact ( still live in it and meet in any case have to) , it is much nicer and more dividends , at least moral. Anyway, this is a federal body - something there for migration , etc.



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Старый 23.07.2011, 23:46 Язык оригинала: Русский       #30
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Anyway, this is a federal body - something there for migration, etc.
Yes, it is those who are passport offices (Visa Service) manages above all - the Federal Migration Service.



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