How not to be deceived

[Sandro]

Сообщение от Firebird

The examination is, prevenans clear more or less?

By the way, if we are talking about such sums, significant expertise - who has been issued, who signed on when. You may need additional expertise at the request of the buyer, and often it can be done only dealer "in authority". Ce la vie, unfortunately, from the experts

[dedulya37]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Yes, and "Wanderers" Grabar can not be named.

And who is generally said that it Grabar?
Firebird I think no mention of the name. Where infa?

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Сообщение от Eugene

The best selling variants of this picture, but this is a rare picture Grabar, only through the shops or auction houses

And that name near Eugene saw.
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=11105

[Жар-птица]

According to this, basically everything is based on trust, appear only receipts and contract committee (the case of a gallery or antique). In your case it is better to write a master that you take the thing for sale or commission, and to search for a gallery will sell it to you. To rent the gallery thing on the contract-Commissions in your name and then you will avoid problems with the commission.

All thanks for the tips! Sorry, if you ask the obvious questions ... What a start is necessary because in the profession, would cause a serious insight into the topic) and not as difficult as it is painted! I am actually, totally agree with you. Only, I'm here, would call its contract agent, I, as representative of the buyer. Then I hand it to the Commission Gallery (showroom), accounting, contract with them. Generally, in practice, usually how many hands is in such a chain, ad infinitum?)))

[Art Consulting]

Firebird,
In fact, everything is different.
I) If you intend to act independently
In this case, it is important to be confident in yourself and that you are going to sell. First of all, make sure that all items genuine, and each have documents. If you've done the deal and the buyer have any questions, you will be responsible for at least the amount of its fees, and perhaps fully, if suddenly the seller, whom you represent, will refuse to give money.
Sequence such.
The seller all documents (provenance, if the heir to the legacy of the documents in copies, and he notarized receipt that these things got to him or his whole life he saw them hanging on the wall in the apartment of the parents, and of course the examination of things need Wanderers will chemistry and art criticism.
How long it turns out, will be brief, the steps.
1) looking object, but is there a "boy".
2) We look with suspicion documents (provenance, examination, publication) if not or not this or not enough - we do.
3) Check the seller's entitlement.
4) stipulates the conditions and interest (as a rule, not burying 10-20%)
5) We conclude that oral, but better written agreement (usually contract the commission) is better exclusive.
6) organize storage (ideally).
7) Making a presentation package (including evaluation).
8) We are looking for a buyer.
9) Before the transaction put things in the bank box or for storage.
10) If the non-cash payment, then sign the contract.
10.1. Get to the account of the money, sign the act, give the keys to the cell or documents to obtain from the "warehouse".
11) If a cash, put into the cell (if you are afraid that the seller zazhmet commission then in two cells, separately for subjects, separately for the commission).
11.1.Podpisyvaem notary contract.
12.2.Podpisyvaem acts, they pass the keys to the cells with the money, you are from a cell with objects or documents to obtain from the "warehouse".
II) If you contact the dealer or gallery owner, then all he does is much easier and for you, a commission, usually with no need to divide them, he simply put her on top, if the price is reasonable.
But how to choose a dealer, I'll show vamne likely prompt the forum :-)
I explained everything correctly gentlemen artdilery :-)

[nikola]

Сообщение от Firebird

And not as difficult as it is painted!

There is another saying, "learn from our mistakes"

of all read advice, I concluded, for all have to pay.
During the experience, too.

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Сообщение от Sandro

By the way, if we are talking about such sums, significant expertise - who has been issued, who signed on when. You may need additional expertise at the request of the buyer, and often it can be done only dealer "in authority". Ce la vie, unfortunately, from the experts

Examination-technical-technological, stylistic, X-ray, ultraviolet, infrared, photo of /in pieces, I think enough. Expert opinion in one organization.

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Сообщение от nikola

There is another saying, "learn from our mistakes"

of all read advice, I concluded, for all have to pay.
During the experience, too.

Yes, you would pay, light "crazy" money no one is looking). But much better to strangers.

[Самвел]

Сообщение от Firebird

But it is better for others too.

Here is someone else's mistakes will not help, we need their mistakes, they are more effective.

[uriart]

Gentlemen
It seems to me that each of us was once deceived by someone?
Otherwise the experience is not optional! While not to step on rakes nothing.
And our Firebird, just wants to get a cake on a plate.
Is not it happens!
Throw!
And more than once!
And the experience of others does not help! Especially when it comes to quite a lot of money!
Indeed correct to say that everyone goes their way!
Let me Firebird is not offended, I did all this without malice said. Sam was throw a couple of times. And nothing can be done. Time was so. While today's time is far from cloudless.
And thieves and crooks around enough! And everyone seemed to love to ride on the backs of others.

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Сообщение от uriart

It seems to me that each of us was once deceived by someone?!

If such advice could be obtained earlier, many would have avoided trouble.
May do without the negative experiences.